(b) subject to this Part and Part 2, where a highway that is located outside an urban area has 2 or more traffic lanes on the same side of the centre line for use by vehicles travelling in the same direction, drive a vehicle in the traffic lane nearest the centre line unless the vehicle is being driven at or near the maximum speed permitted;
Which would show that you are correct however c states
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The start of 2(1) states
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2(1) A person shall not do any of the following:
So while b would permit you to drive at or near the speed limit in the left most lane c does not and the word any means you must meet all clauses. If you continue reading their does not appear to be a penalty for violating C you just can be told by a peace officer to use a different lane.
I do it occasionally for comfort. I'll grab the handlebars if I am around people, but I don't see the big deal. More of a summer thing when I practice the new hipster trend, Bike Yoga.
Riding on the sidewalk must be the one law cyclists are not willing to break by the sounds of it.
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Riding on the sidewalk must be the one law cyclists are not willing to break by the sounds of it.
Well, it’s tough to keep up with drivers that use a mobile device while driving, fail to stop at a red light, fail to stop at a stop sign, fail to signal prior to turning or changing lanes, fail to abide by posted speed limit, fail to leave enough space between vehicles, drive while intoxicated, drive without a license, fail to properly navigate a traffics circle, failing to yield to a pedestrian, etc.
But yeah, let’s say cyclists are the only ones that break the law while travelling.
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Well, it’s tough to keep up with drivers that use a mobile device while driving, fail to stop at a red light, fail to stop at a stop sign, fail to signal prior to turning or changing lanes, fail to abide by posted speed limit, fail to leave enough space between vehicles, drive while intoxicated, drive without a license, fail to properly navigate a traffics circle, failing to yield to a pedestrian, etc.
But yeah, let’s say cyclists are the only ones that break the law while travelling.
I've been cycle commuting in this city for 30 years, and cyclists break all of those laws far more often than motorists. If I had to put numbers to it, I'd say 20 per cent of motorists routinely break multiple traffic bylaws every commute, while 80 per cent of cyclists do. Just watch a busy cycle path for a few minutes and see how many cyclists signal when they pass. I doubt it's even 20 per cent.
But I guess since some motorists ignore traffic laws, all cyclists are exempt from them.
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I've been cycle commuting in this city for 30 years, and cyclists break all of those laws far more often than motorists. If I had to put numbers to it, I'd say 20 per cent of motorists routinely break multiple traffic bylaws every commute, while 80 per cent of cyclists do. Just watch a busy cycle path for a few minutes and see how many cyclists signal when they pass. I doubt it's even 20 per cent.
But I guess since some motorists sometimes ignore traffic laws, all cyclists are exempt from them.
In decades of driving, I have maybe seen a handful of people outright blow through a red light. You certainly have a people doing the "late yellow into a red" but almost never an outright red.
Over decades, I've rarely seen cyclists obey a red at all unless it is on a track where they outright know they're going to get run over by a car turning left. And even then, many will go through the red if they can see a gap or no cars.
I think everyone should run yellows. Squeeze a few more cars through on every light. I have been ticketed twice for running yellow lights, so it's not without its risks.
I think everyone should run yellows. Squeeze a few more cars through on every light. I have been ticketed twice for running yellow lights, so it's not without its risks.
Please don't do this at intersections where people are waiting to turn left. They then get delayed, stuck in the intersection if they are strugglers, and generally screw up the flow of traffic for everyone else. It's a fairly selfish move.
Can you get a ticket for entering an intersection on a yellow? I thought it had to be red when you entered the intersection.
Also, what about a booby trap?
I went to court to fight the first one I got. Thought I was going to Ben Matlock the judge. I lost. Unfortunately, a yellow light means stop if you aren't already in the intersection. Obviously there is some grey area if you're like two feet in front of the intersection going 50kph, but it seems anything before that is up to the cop's discretion.
When a green light changes to yellow, it warns that the light will change to red immediately and drivers must prepare to stop or clear the intersection. Drivers approaching an intersection with a solid (not flashing) yellow traffic control light must bring their vehicles to a complete stop before the stop line or crosswalk, unless a point has been reached at the intersection where stopping cannot be done safely. If there is no stop line or
crosswalk, vehicles must stop before the intersection.
Drivers already in the intersection and facing a yellow light must safely clear
the intersection.
On the ticket I fought, the roads were icy and I genuinely thought it was safer to clear the intersection. The judge stood firm on the whole you weren't in the intersection so you had to stop thing.
The only solace I took from the whole experience was putting the cop out. My court date was over Stampede and the cop spoke to me before the case. He was super pissed I was fighting it because it meant he had to change out of his cowboy garb and into his uniform for court. That was kind of funny.
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Please don't do this at intersections where people are waiting to turn left. They then get delayed, stuck in the intersection if they are strugglers, and generally screw up the flow of traffic for everyone else. It's a fairly selfish move.
Yeah, I know and I wouldn't do it in that scenario. Don't worry. I fataing hate those guys, too.
I think everyone should run yellows. Squeeze a few more cars through on every light. I have been ticketed twice for running yellow lights, so it's not without its risks.
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I've been cycle commuting in this city for 30 years, and cyclists break all of those laws far more often than motorists. If I had to put numbers to it, I'd say 20 per cent of motorists routinely break multiple traffic bylaws every commute, while 80 per cent of cyclists do. Just watch a busy cycle path for a few minutes and see how many cyclists signal when they pass. I doubt it's even 20 per cent.
But I guess since some motorists ignore traffic laws, all cyclists are exempt from them.
Your numbers are made up and are anecdotal. They have no basis in fact. If they were factual, you'd have at least one shred of evidence, as opposed to the 'you are pretty sure' ratio.
If you read my post you'd see I never said cyclists don't break the law. I simply said drivers do as well. There are so many drivers that get annoyed by cyclists breaking the rules of the road, yet their holier than thou attitude doesn't apply to themselves, or other drivers.
I cycle and drive. I routinely see cyclists and drivers breaking the law. I think it's far more dangerous for a vehicle to run through a red light doing 80 km/h than it is for a cyclist to fail to signal while doing 10 km/h in a protected bike lane. Both are illegal.
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In decades of driving, I have maybe seen a handful of people outright blow through a red light. You certainly have a people doing the "late yellow into a red" but almost never an outright red.
Over decades, I've rarely seen cyclists obey a red at all unless it is on a track where they outright know they're going to get run over by a car turning left. And even then, many will go through the red if they can see a gap or no cars.
The City of Edmonton gave out $9,000,000 worth of red light tickets in 2017. If a red light ticket is $287 (2017 fine), that's 31,360 people that have gotten one in a year. That's about 86 per day, and those are only the ones that were issued tickets. Most intersections don't have a red light camera, and not every instance of running a red light gets you a ticket. So maybe, just maybe, it's more than 5 people in over 20 years worth of driving. But keep the anecdotal evidence that it's only cyclists that break the law.
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