[News] Alan Quine assigned to Stockton

[Toonage]

Can't see Lazar or Foo getting the call especially with a RW in Czarnik sitting there twiddling his thumbs.

[FlamingHomer]

Originally Posted by 868904

Flames play the Canucks next. They have Gudbranson and Roussell.

Expect to see Peluso called up and in the line-up.

Peluso will get his 5 minutes and Gaudreau, Lindholm, Tkachuk, Bennett will take up the rest of the 10 minutes Quine was getting.

I expect Quine back up and Peluso sent back down after.

This makes the most sense.

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[neo45]

Hope it’s Dube. Still don’t think he should have been sent down when he was outplaying Neal, Czarnik, Mangipane etc.

[Locke]

He was a good callup and I think produced more than he was expected to, he has probably earned himself 'First Callup' status, but the Heat need the help.

I'm certain that he wasnt sent down for one bad play, thats just a terrible message to send to players and really doesnt strike me as Peters' or Treliving's MO.

Good stint, time to refocus and bring what he learned to the Heat but what he really does is inspire confidence in the rest of the group that if we hit some bumps in the road regarding injuries or form that there is some legitimate help available.

[activeStick]

Quine has been one of the best looking call ups out of the forward group for years, looking the least out of place. Depending on how Dube has looked in the A, wondering if he's back up for good?

[browna]

My guess has absolutely nothing to do with the turnover, it's about getting the guys on the farm rotated through. If the coaching staff was that reactionary and harsh for mistakes that lead to goals, the roster and line pairings would be a dog's breakfast most days.

His three goals and solid 4th line play over the handful of games far exceeds one mistake.

It's good to know we finally have guys down there that can step in and produce, not just fill a spot. And guys with the balls to wear 89 for this franchise!

[sa226]

Does Lazar have to go through waivers to come back up?

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[Strange Brew]

Watching the game with no sound, I originally thought it was Frolik with that turnover. My anger was misplaced and didn't realize until much later.

Quine has not been on 4th line, he has been on 3rd line with Janko and Neal a lot lately, hasn't he? That's not the ideal spot to cycle through AHL call-ups IMO.

Quine, Mangiapane etc.

I'm not giving Neal any excuses here but I'm not really on board with that approach either.

[Enoch Root]

Yeah, I doubt very much it has anything to do with the turnover. You don't send a guy down for one play, otherwise the callups would be gripping their sticks so tight they wouldn't be able to let go.

Quine has been great during his stint here. But I have always believed that the best situation possible is to have a bunch of serviceable callups, and rotate through them in order to keep them hungry.

[ComixZone]

I thought he had faded a bit in the last few games. But he made good on his initial call-up boost.

[Buff]

Last night I was thinking that he's earned a permanent spot on the roster. Then the turnover happened and the look on his face said it all. He knew he was going down. I doubt the turnover itself was the deciding factor but his reaction and demeanor probably played into the decision. Can't have people being so down after costly mistakes. Go down and regain your confidence, you've shown well and you'll be back when you show the right attitude.

[Geeoff]

Confirmed: Quine is the new Markus Granlund. Dominant upon call-up.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by browna

My guess has absolutely nothing to do with the turnover, it's about getting the guys on the farm rotated through. If the coaching staff was that reactionary and harsh for mistakes that lead to goals, the roster and line pairings would be a dog's breakfast most days.

His three goals and solid 4th line play over the handful of games far exceeds one mistake.

It's good to know we finally have guys down there that can step in and produce, not just fill a spot. And guys with the balls to wear 89 for this franchise!

Depth is awesome. Love that about this team so far this season.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by sa226

Does Lazar have to go through waivers to come back up?

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There are no waivers to be called up anymore.

Also related, after a player has been waived they need to clear waivers again to be sent down to the minors after 30 days on the NHL roster or 10 NHL games played (whichever happens first and cumulative over multiple call ups)

My current counts on those that have already cleared waivers this season.

Peluso is on 25 days 4gp
Quine is on 20 days 9gp
Lazar is on 3 days 0gp
Rychel is on 4 days 2gp
Robinson is on 1 day 0gp
Graovac is on 0 days 0gp

Valiev is on 2 days 0gp
Taormina is on 0 days 0gp

So if Quine played 1 more game or stayed on the roster for 10 more days he would have required waivers to be sent down.


Probably not a major concern, but something to keep in mind if they don't want to risk losing a player on waivers.

[thymebalm]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, I doubt very much it has anything to do with the turnover. You don't send a guy down for one play, otherwise the callups would be gripping their sticks so tight they wouldn't be able to let go.

I disagree. I think it’s very much the turnover that sent him down and that Treliving doing so sends the correct message to the prospects. Don’t get lazy. Don’t get complacent. Blind passes into your own slot in a 1-0 game aren’t acceptable.

Quine was getting too comfy. Happens with call ups. Bad lapse in judgement that could have cost the team 2 valuable points and certainly cost Rittich his shutout.

First five games he was hot - 4 points and 3 goals. Last 4 games, -2, no points, one lone shot on goal and was benched for basically the entirety of the last St. Louis game.

I didn’t think Quine was going to stick around all year - to get 9 games on a callup stint is admirable. He’ll get back to work and we’ll likely see him again in February or March.

Edit: with Sureloss pointing out that he’s waiver eligible after another game, he needed to make a serious case that he was worth keeping up over all other options.

@Sureloss does that reset ever? If it accumulates as you say, can they ever use Quine again without subjecting him to waivers?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by thymebalm

@Sureloss does that reset ever? If it accumulates as you say, can they ever use Quine again without subjecting him to waivers?

It is cumulative over multiple regular recalls and does not reset.

They can however recall him under emergency conditions and not have to subject him to waivers. The CBA specifies that games played under emergency recall don't count towards the 10 games in the regular recalls.

[tvp2003]

1. Flames waive Quine.
2. Flames claim Zykov.
3. Zykov turns into all-star.
4. E=NG.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, I doubt very much it has anything to do with the turnover. You don't send a guy down for one play, otherwise the callups would be gripping their sticks so tight they wouldn't be able to let go.

Remember Tim Ramholt? He was here when Brent was coach.
NHL stat line: 1 GP, 0:45 ice time, -1.
That was his NHL career.

I buy the idea that with the 9 game stint, team plans saw him going to be sent down. And his reaction on the bench could very well have been a “f me, I can’t believe I just did that in my last game up”

I do agree with your idea of rotating callups and keeping them hungry

[Bunk]

Would like to see Dube or Lazar come up.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Remember Tim Ramholt? He was here when Brent was coach.
NHL stat line: 1 GP, 0:45 ice time, -1.
That was his NHL career.

I buy the idea that with the 9 game stint, team plans saw him going to be sent down. And his reaction on the bench could very well have been a “f me, I can’t believe I just did that in my last game up”

I do agree with your idea of rotating callups and keeping them hungry

Tim Ramholt wasn't an NHLer. There is no comparison between them.

Quine played well for 9 games. He was (most likely) sent down now in order to avoid waivers. Sending him down for one bad pass would ensure that he would never be able to relax and play his game.