2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Canada 02]

Originally Posted by David Struch

David Perron was the playmaker on the Neal line last year.

Great idea, Neal to the Blues for Tarasenko

[Classic_Sniper]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Why anyone would want the flames to look at maroon or Allen escapes me entirely.

What's wrong with Maroon? I'll bet that's exactly who the Flames were looking at. He's the only decent UFA on the Blues roster right now and he wouldn't cost a lot to acquire.

Guy has a surprisingly good skillset. Faster skater than one would think, soft hands for a big guy, has hockey sense and can play a heavy game which is what the Flames need for the playoffs. In games where checking is tight and scoring off the rush is tough, it's a good idea to have at least 1 heavy line.

If Maroon was acquired. Personally, I would put him on a line with Jankowski and Bennett and see if they can re-create the magic that Jagr brought to that line. I don't think I've ever seen Janko or Sam play better in their entire careers than when they were paired up with Jagr.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I would be stunned if BT isn't looking at goaltending.

For this year? Pretty doubtful IMO. I think they’re perfectly comfortable with Rittich and Smith.

This summer they may look at goaltending. Or if Gillies turns his season around maybe we just transition to Rittich/Gillies.

I don’t think Flames management mistrusts our current goaltending as much as some fans do.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

If we end up in a 7 game series against Edmonton or some other team filled with goofballs who are just going to goon it up, we should be a bit bigger. Maroon would fit that mould.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Lindholm
Tkachuk - Backlund - Bennett
Frolik - Ryan - Neal
Maroon - Jankowski - Hathaway

Simmonds would still be the king of all rentals in my eyes. He strikes me as a possible playoff power performer.

I do think Tree, if we stay at or near the top of the division/conference, will “reward” the players by acquiring some additional depth up front.

I agree which is why I could see the Flames going after a Maroon or Ferland type. I don’t see them going after any rentals that will cost a 1st (Simmonds)

[GioforPM]

FWIW, Simmonds has a 12 team NTC. That may or may not affect Calgary, but it drives down his acquisition cost by eliminating some competition.

OT - How is he only 185 pounds?

[Vinny01]

If the Flames were targeting Schenn I wonder what other pieces would be needed if Jankowski was the centerpiece? I think we would need to add our 1st and maybe another piece. I hate to give up our first rounder but I feel like Schenn would fit the needs of this roster perfectly.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Schenn-Neal
Hathaway-Ryan-Czarnik

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Hamonic
Valimaki-Andersson

[Psytic]

Better us than the Oilers or Ducks getting Maroon again he is a good player.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Psytic

Better us than the Oilers or Ducks getting Maroon again he is a good player.

I agree, but this point must be reemphasized:

No.

Not even Patrick Maroon can save the Edmonton Oilers.

No one can.

No one.

[Toonage]

The template is out there for what the Flames have been after since last summer.

They tried for Reaves, then went after Maroon. Settled on Peluso, made a spot on the 23 man roster for Prout.

If they can circle back to get their second choice, they're going to do it.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Nobody is debating that.



That's literally the definition of discount:

Originally Posted by Discount
1 : a reduction made from the gross (see GROSS entry 1 sense 3b) amount or value of something: such as
a(1) : a reduction made from a regular or list price

That's cute and all, but not applicable here. The definition of a discount is, as is posted above "a reduction from a regular or list price"

Ignoring the issues of 'regular' price...

Choosing a city that you prefer, or a team that you prefer, or a coach that you prefer, instead of monetary compensation, is not a 'reduction', it is a substitution.

People make choices on where they work all the time - and they don't always take the highest dollar value offered - they often make their choice based on multiple factors. Those are substitutions - the value of one thing is chosen instead of the value of something else.

But thank you for looking up and posting the definition of a word that most of us already knew, even though it doesn't apply here.

[Phagoof]

The Flames don't need more wingers, we need a skilled center. O'Reilly, Schenn, would both be wonderful. Maroon on the 4th line LW wouldn't be bad either though for a playoff run.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-O'Reilly/Schenn-Neal
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik
Maroon-Ryan-Hathaway

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Phagoof

The Flames don't need more wingers, we need a skilled center. O'Reilly, Schenn, would both be wonderful. Maroon on the 4th line LW wouldn't be bad either though for a playoff run.

Not sure I agree, I like our centres. Especially when you consider Lindholm can play tgat position. Don’t get me wrong, a centre is better, but I’m guessing the give to get on a centre might not be the right move versus adding more wing depth for cheaper.

[sureLoss]

Rumors and speculation from Friedman's 31 thoughts:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...akstol-firing/

Western GMs are curious about what Colorado is going to do. They have a lot of assets to address their depth issues but the question is if they believe this is the year to go all in.

Canes are debating acquiring Tarasenko. Blues might want Martin Necas.

Some teams are wondering if Vegas will go after Brayden Schenn. Schenn played for Kelly McCrimmon in Brandon.

BJs and Red Wings GMs were at the Channel one cup in Moscow.
There is a push for some Russian free agents but the highest rated ones won't be free until Summer 2020.
Grigorenko and Nesterov are contemplating returns to the NHL
Some teams may look at Viktor Antipin again. Didn't work with Sabres last year

Capitals made it clear they don't want futures if/when they trade Andre Burakovsky.
They are trying to repeat and will want something that will help them now.

Canucks need to make a decision on whether to extend Edler and Tanev or trade them.

[bubbsy]

Why in the world would the nucks not trade edler. That's a diminishing asset that should have been moved 2 seasons ago.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Canucks need to make a decision on whether to extend Edler and Tanev or trade them.

Edler has value, Tanev does not. There was a recent article I read where an insider said Tanev's value is really low among GM's not named Jim Benning. If the guy could stay healthy he would have pretty good value but no GM is trading a valuable package for guy that will almost certainly be injured come crunch time. I think Tanev stays in Vancouver because they seem to be the only franchise that values him.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Schenn would be my target off that Blues' roster, but I am thinking he may be prohibitively expensive to acquire. He has a tonne of sandpaper to his game. Really curious to see how much the Blues end up getting for him when (if) he gets dealt.



Maroon I wouldn't mind. However, I think part of the reason that Neal is sticking out like a sore thumb is his lack of footspeed to get to the open areas under Peters' system. However, Maroon can drastically increase Calgary's ability along the boards - Bennett, Jankowski, Tkachuk are all strong there, but I still think the cycle is a bit weak on the Flames and they end up having difficulties against teams like LA and Edmonton in that area (as well as his nose for the net and ability to screen and tip shots). Might make the Flames a touch more dynamic in terms of systems, but might also stand out with his lack of mobility.


Tarasenko would be a pipe-dream. Simmonds would cost probably much more than he would be worth - Ferland is outscoring him by a goal in 7 less games played, and is a much faster player as well. I would like to acquire Simmonds, but I think the cost to do so would be way too high.


I like that the Flames are probably in on some of these Russian free agents (though I haven't heard a single rumour regarding any). Good to start laying the groundwork. Adding a Panarin or a Dadonov to this team would make the Flames a frighteningly offensive team - dare I saw a juggernaut? Flames were close with Panarin. Hopefully they manage to sign one of the more talented FAs available out of Russia (or even elsewhere in Europe) in the next couple of years.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

That's cute and all, but not applicable here. The definition of a discount is, as is posted above "a reduction from a regular or list price"

Ignoring the issues of 'regular' price...

Choosing a city that you prefer, or a team that you prefer, or a coach that you prefer, instead of monetary compensation, is not a 'reduction', it is a substitution.

People make choices on where they work all the time - and they don't always take the highest dollar value offered - they often make their choice based on multiple factors. Those are substitutions - the value of one thing is chosen instead of the value of something else.

But thank you for looking up and posting the definition of a word that most of us already knew, even though it doesn't apply here.

So you are saying there's no such thing as a home town discount.

[stemit14]

I can see the desire to go after Simmonds but I think Ferland could be had for cheaper and I prefer his foot speed. Plus he already has chemistry with gaudreau and monahan so if injuries down the line up happen... Lindholm can drop down a line and ferland could take lindholm’s spot.

That makes it easier as well since that means the flames wouldn’t necessarily have to go find another centre since Lindholm can play center if need be.


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[stemit14]

I can see the desire to go after Simmonds but I think Ferland could be had for cheaper and I prefer his foot speed. Plus he already has chemistry with gaudreau and monahan so if injuries down the line up happen... Lindholm can drop down a line and ferland could take lindholm’s spot.

That makes it easier as well since that means the flames wouldn’t necessarily have to go find another centre since Lindholm can play centre if need be.

Not sure what the trade cost would be for ferland... does 2nd round pick + Czarnick sound like enough? Could even make the 2nd round pick a conditional first if the flames make it to the cup final.


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[iLoveLamp]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I can see the desire to go after Simmonds but I think Ferland could be had for cheaper and I prefer his foot speed. Plus he already has chemistry with gaudreau and monahan so if injuries down the line up happen... Lindholm can drop down a line and ferland could take lindholm’s spot.

That makes it easier as well since that means the flames wouldn’t necessarily have to go find another centre since Lindholm can play centre if need be.

Not sure what the trade cost would be for ferland... does 2nd round pick + Czarnick sound like enough? Could even make the 2nd round pick a conditional first if the flames make it to the cup final.


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Wow barf, if the Flames are giving up a possible first round pick they better be getting someone better than Ferland