[News] UPD post #250: Giordano suspended 2 games for kneeing. Lomberg suspended 2 games

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by DJones

Last year people were saying the same nonsense about Giordano hitting Aho. Like he should have somehow avoided contact?

I think both were clean hits. Dumba's pisses me off because it should never have happened but the hit itself was fine.

Giordano did not hit Aho in the head. Nor did he aggressively drive into the hit in a predatory fashion. He basically stood there, impeding Aho's path.

Had Dumba done the same thing, I would have had no problem with it at all.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

Could he have avoided it? I guess. But he stepped up, exactly as he should have. 2-0 empty net, extra guy, puck squirts to the middle, you’re stepping up and stopping that player 100% of the time.

1 minute left so he “didn’t need to” is a weird thought, but if that’s your opinion let’s just say he did it as retribution to watching their captain get “kneed” and removed from the game. So he lays a hard, perfectly clean and legal, body check on a player to send a message back. Is it okay then? Isn’t that what we are all patting Lomberg on the back for?

While most people are patting Lomberg on the back, most also agree that a suspension is warranted (and well worth it)

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Giordano did not hit Aho in the head. Nor did he aggressively drive into the hit in a predatory fashion. He basically stood there, impeding Aho's path.

Had Dumba done the same thing, I would have had no problem with it at all.

That hit still blows my mind. What the heck is Aho doing!? Hopefully he learned from that and it saves him in his career, because that was a serious case of tunnel vision.

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

While most people are patting Lomberg on the back, most also agree that a suspension is warranted (and well worth it)

Yes but only because of the final minutes rule.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Any idea on when news of a suspension would come?

Curious as well

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

This is a contact sport and once you start saying a player cannot hit another player if they have a choice to play the puck instead, it starts to get a bit ridiculous.

I mean I'm just reading the rule he posted, it says a head check is punishable if it was avoidable. The whole nature of the rule dictates you have to ask if he had a choice or not to avoid the hit to determine if there should be a penalty/suspension.

You don't think he had a choice, I get that. For me the hard part is that if I picture a lot of other players in that position I think they wouldn't have made that hit and that tells me it was avoidable and a choice he made.

The bigger issue for me is the inconsistency the league applies with their rule book. I wouldn't have any issues with them saying "it's a contact sport, head hits will happen" and letting it go. But once you say its not allowed to hit somebody else in the head like they do with high sticking or hitting from behind, do it across the board.

[DJones]

Every single hit is avoidable.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by 868904

It wasn't even a knee, it was a trip.

Just because Koivu is made of glass, doesn't mean a suspension is warranted every time he gets hurt.

I'm so sick of Boudreau's whining.

Agreed..........a trip with his knee.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Any idea on when news of a suspension would come?

Today. I figure 4:32pm.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Matty81

I mean I'm just reading the rule he posted, it says a head check is punishable if it was avoidable. The whole nature of the rule dictates you have to ask if he had a choice or not to avoid the hit to determine if there should be a penalty/suspension.

No sorry, the rule references avoiding contact with the head, while delivering a bodycheck.

It does not mention avoiding body contact.

[sureLoss]

News Update

Dean Molberg @fan960boomer
Giordano hearing over.

[btimbit]

[Enoch Root]

the suspense!

[Azure]

My issue with the hit is the same issue that Peters had. The trip was missed, play continued, the hit happened.

Refs should be calling the same game for 60 min regardless of what the score is.

[sureLoss]

Dean Molberg @fan960boomer
Not sure what Koivu’s injury is, but curious if the fact he was hurt bites Giordano here. Likely being viewed as a knee on knee comparable. Avoiding a suspension seems less and less likely.

[Enoch Root]

the same way that Backlund's injury is factoring into Dumba's suspension?

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

No sorry, the rule references avoiding contact with the head, while delivering a bodycheck.

It does not mention avoiding body contact.

That's why I said head check is avoidable not body check... poor choice of words I guess, sounds like a beastie boys reference instead of a hockey play.

[Robbob]

Do they put out videos for fines? I can't be bothered to do a search from the Lucic thing.

[Phagoof]

The league just hates the Flames, it all started with the phantom goal in 04.

[btimbit]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1071177132837990400

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Phagoof

The league just hates the Flames, it all started with the phantom goal in 04.

or earlier...



After Krushelnyski's goal gave Los Angeles a 4-3 victory and this first-round playoff series in six games, the Flames dressed without any visible emotion. They had been angry over a disallowed goal by Doug Gilmour that would have won the game for them late in the first overtime, but now they were quiet. They did not curse their luck, which, considering the bloop game-winner, their territorial dominance in overtime and referee Denis Morel's quick whistle on the Gilmour shot, was abysmal. Still, after having fallen behind 3-1 in a series they had figured to win decisively, they knew the perils of playing on the edge. "We didn't lose the series tonight," said defenseman Jamie Macoun. "We lost it by playing badly earlier in the series."
Nevertheless, Calgary could have prevailed had Gilmour's goal-that-wasn't been allowed to stand. Gilmour chipped the puck from behind the L.A. net. The puck ricocheted off the back of goalie Kelly Hrudey's right leg and slithered toward the goal line. Goal judge Ted Metcalfe illuminated the goal light, and the entire Flame team rushed onto the ice in celebration. But Morel talked to Metcalfe on a phone and ruled no goal. Morel had lost sight of the puck and apparently assumed that Hrudey had covered it, so he whistled the play dead. "The goal judge saw it [the puck] in after it [the play] was killed [whistled dead]," Morel said later. "I had killed play." If that's the case, why did Morel need to consult with Metcalfe before making his ruling?
"Some things are to be," said Calgary defenseman Ric Nattress, "and some things are not to be." That is an observation that can be made whenever Wayne Gretzky appears in a postseason series.