12-07-2018, 11:22 AM
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#21
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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So Dumba jumps and targets Backlund's head and nothing? This league is a f'n joke.
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12-07-2018, 11:23 AM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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When you are as physical a defender as Gio, you are going to have situations like this every now and then. Clearly no intent to injure.
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12-07-2018, 11:23 AM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
What's Lomberg supposed to do - say "no" when asked to go on?
It should be a rule about Peters, although he didn't necessarily send him out to specifically attack Dumba. He could have just figured something might happen, so better put him out (instead of, say, Gaudreau). Especially if Dumba or someone else decides to run at someone else.
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Nah. He sent him out specifically to 'atrack' Dumba, and I approve.
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12-07-2018, 11:24 AM
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#24
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Franchise Player
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I’ve got no love for Minnesota.
If Koivu is out, it’s the hockey gods making things right. Did Staal get suspended for breaking Gaudreau’s hand with a slash? Nope? %^*! ‘Em. %^*! the garbage refs.
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12-07-2018, 11:24 AM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Is there a video or gif of knee to knee contact? I thought they clipped skates but may have just missed the camera angle and that showed it
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12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
If they look at things Gio did that were not the subject of previous discupline, that's an appealable result IMO. It's not in the rulebook. Only previous DPS stuff is considered a player's "history". And even then there's a time limit.
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I understand what you are saying. But I am not an idealist. the DOPS is going to consider who got hurt and the playing history of the offender. They just wont say it in the little video package.
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12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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#27
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Norm!
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You watch, when the chips are down the NHL will suspend Gio for two games so he can't play against the Oilers.
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12-07-2018, 11:25 AM
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#28
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
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re: Dumba on Backlund
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Looked into this...was told skates on the ice at contact, not an illegal Check to the Head as there is some head contact but head is not the main point of contact, elbow is tucked. Clean hit.
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12-07-2018, 11:26 AM
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#29
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Its possible that the game against Edmonton has Prout, Hathaway & Peluso in the lineup (depending on a call up) and that because of poor officiating/decision making the league inadvertently makes the Oilers game much more volatile.
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12-07-2018, 11:26 AM
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#30
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Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Parkdale
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Gio getting at least one. I bet two.
This weekend looking no bueno all of a sudden...
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12-07-2018, 11:26 AM
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#31
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Back in Calgary!!
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Is there no video of the knee? The only one I saw was during the broadcast and it wasn't the greatest angle.
The Dumba thing is a tough one and where thing get a little muddied. Backlund absolutely put himself in a vulnerable position. Even as the gamer evolves, you can't just Eric Lindros your way through the middle of the ice. But I was under the impression that the league was trying to move away from placing the "blame" 100% on the player in the vulnerable position, and shift a bit to unecessary hits on players in a vulnerable positions. The head wasn't the principle point of contact, but his head was sure vulnerable during the hit. It tough to view these things without bias, when its a Flame.
It pretty damn infuriating that a game that should have tidily been wrapped up at 3-0 has now become a potential loss of the Captain and Assistant captain because of garbage officiating.
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12-07-2018, 11:26 AM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Ontario
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And we're not even going to look at Dumba or Kunitz
Last edited by Split98; 12-07-2018 at 01:49 PM.
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12-07-2018, 11:27 AM
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#33
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
re: Dumba on Backlund
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Looked into this...was told skates on the ice at contact, not an illegal Check to the Head as there is some head contact but head is not the main point of contact, elbow is tucked. Clean hit.
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Everyone calling this hit dirty is the reason it's called the No Hitting League now. Backlund had his head down and was in an unfortunate spot, Dumba didn't do anything wrong
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12-07-2018, 11:27 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Nah. He sent him out specifically to 'atrack' Dumba, and I approve.
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Sorry, but that's the kind of predatory retaliation the league needs to do away with it.
Just because you believe a hit is dirty doesn't mean you go out and jump a guy and start wailing on him.
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12-07-2018, 11:28 AM
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#35
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First Line Centre
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Whatever fines/missed salary Lomberg loses just becomes 'signing bonus' for next year hopefully. He did his job.
I bet Gio will get 1 game suspension, and then it will be used as the reasoning why he can't win the Norris because obviously Morgan Reilly of the Toronto Maple Leafs deserves it more.
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12-07-2018, 11:29 AM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
re: Dumba on Backlund
Elliotte Friedman @FriedgeHNIC
Looked into this...was told skates on the ice at contact, not an illegal Check to the Head as there is some head contact but head is not the main point of contact, elbow is tucked. Clean hit.
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What blind yokel looked at that video and made that conclusion? 
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12-07-2018, 11:29 AM
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#37
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Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
Nah. He sent him out specifically to 'atrack' Dumba, and I approve.
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Maybe he did, but he can easily explain it otherwise. I'm fine with the automatic penalty for instigation at the end of the game (although look at Kassian not getting one in the same situation). But unless someone overheard Peters say "go get him", he should be allowed to send on a tough guy in a tough situation.
Plus, I'm not sure why it's fair that the discipline would be on Lomberg (and not Peters).
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12-07-2018, 11:29 AM
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#38
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ped
Sorry, but that's the kind of predatory retaliation the league needs to do away with it.
Just because you believe a hit is dirty doesn't mean you go out and jump a guy and start wailing on him.
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I'm not saying that Lomberg and Peters dont deserve discipline. All the same, Lomberg going out and making that play was the right move. These teams play in a week and its good to send a message that players will have to pay the price if they take liberties.
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12-07-2018, 11:29 AM
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#39
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
And we're not even going to look at Dumba or Kunitz |
Did anything happen to Kunitz?
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12-07-2018, 11:30 AM
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#40
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda
Everyone calling this hit dirty is the reason it's called the No Hitting League now. Backlund had his head down and was in an unfortunate spot, Dumba didn't do anything wrong
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Except target the head. I am a big supporter of hitting in the game but you can clearly see Dumba elevate to target the head.
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