Edmonton is No Good VI: Chia•den•freu•de

[getbak]

Originally Posted by DownhillGoat

But Chicago is sweet though.

Isn't Dallas a pretty good party town too?

[chemgear]

Originally Posted by Mazrim

Carrying a team on your back for 15-20 minutes a night will cause a ton of stress and exhaustion, which makes that person very susceptible to getting sick!

More like 25.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

I'll pretend it's dad of Kailer and he's getting his disappointment face in game shape

If that is Yamamoto's dad, then the source of his disappointment is most certainly that he is stuck watching eye-gaugingly, suicide-inductively boring, bad hockey while his son is playing in Bakersfield, California.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by spuzzum

It would never happen but look how Quebec turned into a powerhouse trading Lindros. Although they did have better building blocks even before trading Lindros. The return for Mcdavid would be insane and they could hire a GM with some sort of strategic planning with plans to stabilize such a crappy franchise.

People keep saying stuff like this, and I really think that a Lindros-type trade is simply not possible in today's NHL. The cap sets massive constrictions on the ability of what a team can move or add, and the value of draft picks is higher today than possibly ever. I don't think the Oilers would get an offer for McDavid on which they could pull the trigger, because I don't think any team would risk the cost that it would require to add him.

McDavid may end p being traded one day, and it will most certainly be the biggest trade in the last couple of decades. But there is no way the return would anything comparable to what Quebec got back for Eric Lindros.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by mazrim

carrying a team on your back for 15-20 minutes 22–26 minutes a night will cause a ton of stress and exhaustion, which makes that person very susceptible to getting sick!

fyp.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

People keep saying stuff like this, and I really think that a Lindros-type trade is simply not possible in today's NHL. The cap sets massive constrictions on the ability of what a team can move or add, and the value of draft picks is higher today than possibly ever. I don't think the Oilers would get an offer for McDavid on which they could pull the trigger, because I don't think any team would risk the cost that it would require to add him.

McDavid may end p being traded one day, and it will most certainly be the biggest trade in the last couple of decades. But there is no way the return would anything comparable to what Quebec got back for Eric Lindros.

Look at how many pieces the Avs got for Duchene. I think of Edmonton put McDavid on the block they could easily demand 6-8 quality pieces. When would there ever be a proven generational 22 year old with 7 years on his deal hit the market?

Deep organizations could easily make that deal and would be happy to do it. I would easily part with a package of Monahan, Hanifin, 1st, 2nd, Bennett, Parsons without blinking an eye. Having said that the Flames are deep. They would still have Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Backlund, Gio, Brodie, Hamonic, Valimaki which is still a far deeper lineup than the Oilers currently surround McDavid with.

I know that deal would never happen but the Oilers could get a package like that from a lot of teams in the league if they moved McDavid

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Makarov

I found this amusing exchange on the "other forum":

Poster 1:

Interesting ...

Originally Posted by Armchair Oilers GM

Have to find a way to dump Sekera, Lucic and Kassian...

There is no possible way of moving Lucic and his contract. That is a sunk cost with no reprieve.

I'd move Nurse+ for for a top 6 winger for RNH.

That would have to be a massive "plus." Nurse is probably a third-pairing defenseman on most NHL teams. IF he is the centrepiece in a deal the return is most likely a young middle-six 'tweener.

I'd move one of Puljujarvi/Yamamoto+ for a middle second pairing defender.

Again, what? The plan is to move a young NHL/AHL tweeter for an established top four defenseman? What team is making this deal? As of today, Yamamoto and Puljujarvi are both projects, whose value is in the ballpark of high-end but underperforming prospects.

I'd look to sign another second pairing defender in free agency

So, the net result then would be: a third/second line 'tweeter playing on one of the top-two wings, a second-pair and third-pair defenseman playing in the top four with two other #3–4 defensemen, and a project.

Could also probably find a decent 3c as well in free agency.

What an embarrassment of riches.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Look at how many pieces the Avs got for Duchene. I think of Edmonton put McDavid on the block they could easily demand 6-8 quality pieces. When would there ever be a proven generational 22 year old with 7 years on his deal hit the market?

Deep organizations could easily make that deal and would be happy to do it. I would easily part with a package of Monahan, Hanifin, 1st, 2nd, Bennett, Parsons without blinking an eye. Having said that the Flames are deep. They would still have Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Lindholm, Backlund, Gio, Brodie, Hamonic, Valimaki which is still a far deeper lineup than the Oilers currently surround McDavid with.

I don't think this return is all that close to what Eric Lindros netted, which was my point.

I know that deal would never happen but the Oilers could get a package like that from a lot of teams in the league if they moved McDavid

Like I said, I don't think it could happen, and I will only believe it when I see it. The pressure on the Oilers would be so intense that it would likely require more than any team could reasonably afford to move in order to complete a deal. Moreover, I think the only possible scenario in which McDavid would be moved is one in which he would insist to be traded. This would almost certainly dramatically reduce the value of any possible return.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

I don't think this return is all that close to what Eric Lindros netted, which was my point.


Like I said, I don't think it could happen, and I will only believe it when I see it. The pressure on the Oilers would be so intense that it would likely require more than any team could reasonably afford to move in order to complete a deal. Moreover, I think the only possible scenario in which McDavid would be moved is one in which he would insist to be traded. This would almost certainly dramatically reduce the value of any possible return.

In any potential trade, money in, money out would have to be close to even for both teams.

McDavid at 12.5m, so other teams would be sending somewhere around that number in cap hit back:

EIther:

a very good player ($8-9M), plus a OK depth player ($3-4 million) + Picks

Or

Two Pretty good players ($6-7M each) + Picks.

Not impossible, but its hard to balance out a trade that works for both sides - both in terms of both sides liking the players they are getting back, AND in making it work for both sides within salary cap parameters.

[Rollin22x]

Originally Posted by driveway

“We’re not mad, we’re just disappointed.”



(credit: u/arns, reddit.com)

They're proud hockey dads and each one is thinking - "look at the bums my kid has to work with" and then grimacing because they can't vent to anyone sitting around them.

[jg13]

Draisaitls Dad is the human version of this cat picture.

[getbak]

28 = Brodziak

He's probably thinking that this was a ####hole organization when his son left it the first time and a decade later, it's still a ####hole organization.

[ForeverFlameFan]

RNH's dad just has that facial reaction of, "man, how did he go 1st OA?"

[troutman]

Is he Nugent or Hopkins?

[Locke]

All of their faces are fantastic.

Bottom Left: "The horror....the horror!"

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by troutman

Is he Nugent or Hopkins?

Hopkins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Nugent-Hopkins

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Lubicon

Hopkins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryan_Nugent-Hopkins

Wow. I never knew that one of his middle names was 'Jarromie.'

Its almost 'Jarome' but just No Good.

[Buff]

Hopefully Nugent-Hopkins doesn't marry Smith-Pelly's sister and their kids have the surname of Nugent-Hopkins-Smith-Pelly. Even worse if they had a son named John-Michael.

With the 1st selection in the 2036 Entry Draft, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select John-Michael Nugent-Hopkins-Smith-Pelly.

[calf]

Originally Posted by Buff

Hopefully Nugent-Hopkins doesn't marry Smith-Pelly's sister and their kids have the surname of Nugent-Hopkins-Smith-Pelly. Even worse if they had a son named John-Michael.

With the 1st selection in the 2036 Entry Draft, the Edmonton Oilers are proud to select John-Michael Nugent-Hopkins-Smith-Pelly.

[Hockey_Ninja]

I was going to argure with him. But decided not not too:

Spoiler!