11-29-2018, 01:03 PM
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#461
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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What is Nylander asking for (I thought it was in the range of $8 million/season)? It seems like for the past few weeks we keep hearing they are only $300k apart.
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11-29-2018, 01:04 PM
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#462
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
What is Nylander asking for? It seems like for the past few weeks we keep hearing they are only $300k apart.
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Just under $7 mil / year is the reported ask
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11-29-2018, 01:05 PM
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#463
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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He wanted Draisaitl money going by the recent reports from Friedman & the like.
Edit - But yes, currently seems they are around $7M
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11-29-2018, 01:06 PM
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#464
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
Just under $7 mil / year is the reported ask
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I've heard Draisaitl money as well, if it was under 7 a year, this deal would be done
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11-29-2018, 01:07 PM
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#465
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
He wanted Draisaitl money going by the recent reports from Friedman & the like.
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It's been widdled down. Wasn't the rumored first... ugh I hate this "ask" from Gio's camp over 8m? same thing here. Big number ...ugh "ask" agent and GM meet in the middle (usually 6-7m)
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11-29-2018, 01:12 PM
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#466
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I've heard Draisaitl money as well, if it was under 7 a year, this deal would be done
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That is per HNIC this past Saturday. The belief is Nylander will accept a 6 x $6.9 mil/year deal, but as of yet Toronto hasn't put that on the table.
On Saturday Friedman said the Leafs and Nylander's camp were $500k apart. Two days ago Friedman said the two sides are $300k apart in his 31 thought column
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11-29-2018, 01:20 PM
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#467
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Franchise Player
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Term plays a huge difference Draisaitl signed 8 years, that doesn't appear to be the rumoured term for this one. An 8x8 is not all that different than 6 years at 7 million, with a little bit less security.
With inflation and UFA prices you could easily sign:
6years*7 and 2years*10 and make 62M, except those last 2 years can be your choice of team.
In 6 years the cap could be 100M with Seattle's revenue. (It increased over 15M in the last 6 years).
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11-29-2018, 01:20 PM
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#468
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Scoring Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
That is per HNIC this past Saturday. The belief is Nylander will accept a 6 x $6.9 mil/year deal, but as of yet Toronto hasn't put that on the table.
On Saturday Friedman said the Leafs and Nylander's camp were $500k apart. Two days ago Friedman said the two sides are $300k apart in his 31 thought column
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300k dosent seem like a deal breaker, especially if we are talking the difference between 6.7 and 7mil AAV. Your talking a 3rd of a entry level player's salary. If they are this close, and Nylander is forfeiting ~82k per game missed, you think this this would have been inked weeks ago. Something is amiss.
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11-29-2018, 01:23 PM
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#469
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
That is per HNIC this past Saturday. The belief is Nylander will accept a 6 x $6.9 mil/year deal, but as of yet Toronto hasn't put that on the table.
On Saturday Friedman said the Leafs and Nylander's camp were $500k apart. Two days ago Friedman said the two sides are $300k apart in his 31 thought column
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Friedman also said yesterday that he would bet that regardless of signing or no signing, Nylander will not be playing in Toronto.
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11-29-2018, 01:25 PM
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#470
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev
300k dosent seem like a deal breaker, especially if we are talking the difference between 6.7 and 7mil AAV. Your talking a 3rd of a entry level player's salary. If they are this close, and Nylander is forfeiting ~82k per game missed, you think this this would have been inked weeks ago. Something is amiss.
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You wouldn't think so, but back in the day wasn't Ryan Smyth traded because they were 100k apart or something? Maybe I'm remembering it right.
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11-29-2018, 01:26 PM
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#471
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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I bet Nylander wants some sort of NMC and Leafs don't want to give him one. I don't blame Nylander. Why sign long term and give a discount, only to have the Leafs trade him to Arizona or Carolina a year later just so Leafs can fit Marner and Matthews under the cap.
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11-29-2018, 01:27 PM
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#472
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by bax
You wouldn't think so, but back in the day wasn't Ryan Smyth traded because they were 100k apart or something? Maybe I'm remembering it right.
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Yeah, but... Edmonton.
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11-29-2018, 01:29 PM
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#473
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I bet Nylander wants some sort of NMC and Leafs don't want to give him one. I don't blame Nylander. Why sign long term and give a discount, only to have the Leafs trade him to Arizona or Carolina a year later just so Leafs can fit Marner and Matthews under the cap.
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That's just it, your bang on. They can't give him a NMC until he's UFA or arbtration eligable or something, right? So why sign a discount to make your trade value more beneficial to the bastards squeezing you for nickles.
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11-29-2018, 01:30 PM
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#474
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I bet Nylander wants some sort of NMC and Leafs don't want to give him one. I don't blame Nylander. Why sign long term and give a discount, only to have the Leafs trade him to Arizona or Carolina a year later just so Leafs can fit Marner and Matthews under the cap.
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NMC are not allowed during RFA years, so even if he negotiated one it wouldn't kick in for several years.
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11-29-2018, 01:34 PM
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#475
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Franchise Player
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If they're seriously squeezing him for a few hundred K and he winds up signing under 7, I'll be baffled. The guy's worth more than that.
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11-29-2018, 01:37 PM
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#476
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by CaptainYooh
Friedman also said yesterday that he would bet that regardless of signing or no signing, Nylander will not be playing in Toronto.
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Actually what he said was that no matter what happens this will be Nylander's final season as a Leaf.
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11-29-2018, 01:38 PM
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#477
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
NMC are not allowed during RFA years, so even if he negotiated one it wouldn't kick in for several years.
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I actually didn't know that. Thanks. Then I'm not sure what the hold up is if it's just the alleged $300K difference.
Last edited by The Yen Man; 11-29-2018 at 01:42 PM.
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11-29-2018, 01:40 PM
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#478
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I actually didn't know that. Thanks. Then I'm not sure whats the hold up is if it's just the alleged $300K difference.
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I think the problem is both sides think they have compromised enough and don't feel like capitulating anything further.
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11-29-2018, 03:45 PM
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#479
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man
I actually didn't know that. Thanks. Then I'm not sure what the hold up is if it's just the alleged $300K difference.
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$300K/yr over 7 years is $2.1M which seems like more of a talking point for career earnings
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11-29-2018, 03:58 PM
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#480
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Nylander will get traded for a few hundred thousand a year, miss playing for a cup contender with an open window and will regret it for the rest of his life if they win.
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