11-26-2018, 01:54 PM
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#3321
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
To be honest trading McDavid and the windfall they could get would probably save that franchise in the long-run.
Actually who am I kidding, Chiarelli would trade him for Alzner and a 1st round pick and call it bold move.
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No way, would the windfall be greater than 4 first overall picks? No.
Let me remind you:
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11-26-2018, 01:55 PM
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#3322
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Since the 2016-2017 season, Tkachuk is first with 100, McDavid second with 98, Gaudreau third with 84:
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Geez, with 2 of the top 3 on that list, imagine if our powerplay was any good for all those years? We could have really made the opposition pay.
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11-26-2018, 01:56 PM
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#3323
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
To be honest trading McDavid and the windfall they could get would probably save that franchise in the long-run.
Actually who am I kidding, Chiarelli would trade him for Alzner and a 1st round pick and call it bold move.
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Any team that has the assets to do a Lindros type trade is probably pretty happy with their team right now.
You'd need the equivalent of Forsberg, Ricci, Hextall, Duchene, Huffman, Simon plus 2 picks (not even going to include the cash).
Like, is Toronto trading Matthews (Forsberg), Kadri (Ricci), Andersson (Hextall), Reilly (Duchene), etc for one guy?
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11-26-2018, 02:00 PM
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#3324
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Any team that has the assets to do a Lindros type trade is probably pretty happy with their team right now.
You'd need the equivalent of Forsberg, Ricci, Hextall, Duchene, Huffman, Simon plus 2 picks (not even going to include the cash).
Like, is Toronto trading Matthews (Forsberg), Kadri (Ricci), Andersson (Hextall), Reilly (Duchene), etc for one guy?
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I think the cap has #### canned these types of deals.
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11-26-2018, 02:02 PM
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#3325
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Any team that has the assets to do a Lindros type trade is probably pretty happy with their team right now.
You'd need the equivalent of Forsberg, Ricci, Hextall, Duchene, Huffman, Simon plus 2 picks (not even going to include the cash).
Like, is Toronto trading Matthews (Forsberg), Kadri (Ricci), Andersson (Hextall), Reilly (Duchene), etc for one guy?
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A deal I thought of this morning that could work out for both teams.
To Col: McDavid
To EDM: Rantanen + Avs 1st (19)+ Sens 1st (19) + Avs 1st (20)
They get a similar aged young superstar and 3 draft picks which could include 1 very high pick. Maybe the Avs could put conditions on their 2020 pick if that is too much going back to the Oil. It eliminates the issue of paying Rantanen 2-3M more per season than McKinnon and gives the Avs the 2 fastest centers in the league. Oilers build their top line around Draisaitl and Rantanen and have 3 1st rounders next draft (1-2 would be high picks).
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11-26-2018, 02:05 PM
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#3326
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
A deal I thought of this morning that could work out for both teams.
To Col: McDavid
To EDM: Rantanen + Avs 1st (19)+ Sens 1st (19) + Avs 1st (20)
They get a similar aged young superstar and 3 draft picks which could include 1 very high pick. Maybe the Avs could put conditions on their 2020 pick if that is too much going back to the Oil. It eliminates the issue of paying Rantanen 2-3M more per season than McKinnon and gives the Avs the 2 fastest centers in the league. Oilers build their top line around Draisaitl and Rantanen and have 3 1st rounders next draft (1-2 would be high picks).
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Heh. The Oilers are convinced that McDavid is the best player in the world. What team would trade the best player in the world?
oh yeah...
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11-26-2018, 02:09 PM
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#3327
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Heh. The Oilers are convinced that McDavid is the best player in the world. What team would trade the best player in the world?
oh yeah...
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"I told The Nuge, The Drake, and Der German Messier I wouldn't cry. And I'm not, I'm finally free!"
- Connor McDavid, sooner than we think...
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11-26-2018, 02:09 PM
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#3328
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Heh. The Oilers are convinced that McDavid is the best player in the world. What team would trade the best player in the world?
oh yeah...
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I am holding out hope he demands a trade. I just love that it has become a topic of discussion amongst that fanbase as they continue to suffer from horrible management
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11-26-2018, 02:10 PM
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#3329
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Yeah it's not like there's another level of benefit he can get seeing officials are calling more penalties on infraction against McDavid than any other player. It's crazy that those fans still think that McDavid isn't getting the benefit of the doubt from officials.
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Not to defend them too much, but there's a lot of borderline non-calls that happen against McDavid. He's just so quick and skilled that it's hard not to get a hook or trip in when he's zooming past.
Much like us calling for penalties against Gaudreau, when you have these talented quick and shifty players that are hard to defend against teams are going to to need to take liberties that will sometimes go uncalled.
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11-26-2018, 02:11 PM
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#3330
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Not this season.
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So far. This season is still young.
And I dont think Chucky got full credit for all of Zack 'The Meathead' Kassian's PIMs during that last BoA but he totally should have.
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11-26-2018, 02:15 PM
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#3331
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Franchise Player
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He would have got credit for the triple roughing minors. Along with the interference from Draisaitl to start the game. So should have received four of his eleven this year from that game.
Yeah he did: http://www.nhl.com/stats/player?repo...penaltiesDrawn
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11-26-2018, 02:20 PM
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#3332
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
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But no credit for Kassian's 10 minute misconduct? Thats 5 penalties on its own. Although that misconduct is more minutes than Kassian plays in a week....I dont know what the rules are for this.
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11-26-2018, 02:21 PM
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#3333
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Franchise Player
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Well the stat is minor penalties drawn.
Besides drawing a game misconduct against Kassian is a negative. Just means he won't see the ice as much. 
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11-26-2018, 02:22 PM
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#3334
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen
Well the stat is minor penalties drawn.
Besides drawing a game misconduct against Kassian is a negative. Just means he won't see the ice as much. |
Exactly! Get that goon on the ice!
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11-26-2018, 02:31 PM
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#3335
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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Not sure if it's been mentioned but if anybody is looking for 18:10 of pure comedy, have a watch of this. You can just sense the despair and it is glorious.
https://edmontonjournal.com/sports/h...lers-l-a-kings
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11-26-2018, 02:32 PM
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#3336
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
To be honest trading McDavid and the windfall they could get would probably save that franchise in the long-run.
Actually who am I kidding, Chiarelli would trade him for Alzner and a 1st round pick and call it bold move.
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Twitter insiders: "The trade is one for one. McDavid for Karlsson."
Observers: "Erik Karlsson?"
Observers: "No, Melker"
Chiarelli: "There are TWO Karlssons?"
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11-26-2018, 02:47 PM
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#3337
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Franchise Player
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A team trading for McDavid isn't doing a hockey trade, they are doing a franchise trade.
There would be a bidding war amongst half the league whose attendence struggles.
But if I'm Edm I move draisaital for a stud dman
Draisaital for Doughty
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11-26-2018, 03:03 PM
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#3338
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dieHARDflameZ
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I'm really not sure why they need the video turned on for that item - really, neither one has really put in any effort to look at the camera (or even centre it), and they've obviously not tried to dress up for a public video (I'm guessing sweatpants all 'round). That could easily just be an audio podcast. That's even before discussing the content of the piece itself; I especially love seeing the guy get up to let his dog in.
It just screams E=NG.
Last edited by sleepingmoose; 11-26-2018 at 03:31 PM.
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11-26-2018, 03:25 PM
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#3339
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
A deal I thought of this morning that could work out for both teams.
To Col: McDavid
To EDM: Rantanen + Avs 1st (19)+ Sens 1st (19) + Avs 1st (20)
They get a similar aged young superstar and 3 draft picks which could include 1 very high pick. Maybe the Avs could put conditions on their 2020 pick if that is too much going back to the Oil. It eliminates the issue of paying Rantanen 2-3M more per season than McKinnon and gives the Avs the 2 fastest centers in the league. Oilers build their top line around Draisaitl and Rantanen and have 3 1st rounders next draft (1-2 would be high picks).
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That isn't close to enough. I mean, Rantanen is good and all, but 3 late 1st round picks is a lot less than it sounds. Statistically, you would only expect 1 or 2 of them to become full time NHLers, and probably only 1 impact player.
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11-26-2018, 03:29 PM
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#3340
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
A deal I thought of this morning that could work out for both teams.
To Col: McDavid
To EDM: Rantanen + Avs 1st (19)+ Sens 1st (19) + Avs 1st (20)
They get a similar aged young superstar and 3 draft picks which could include 1 very high pick. Maybe the Avs could put conditions on their 2020 pick if that is too much going back to the Oil. It eliminates the issue of paying Rantanen 2-3M more per season than McKinnon and gives the Avs the 2 fastest centers in the league. Oilers build their top line around Draisaitl and Rantanen and have 3 1st rounders next draft (1-2 would be high picks).
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The Oilers would have to be really dumb not to package boat anchor(Lucic) in any deal that includes McDavid. You get the best! And, uh, this thing.
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