View Poll Results: Are you for or against Calgary hosting the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games?
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I am for Calgary hosting
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I am against Calgary hosting
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11-19-2018, 07:22 AM
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#1781
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Nenshi being the face of the federal Conservatives would actually do a world of good for that party.
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F&ck no!
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11-19-2018, 07:26 AM
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#1782
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by redforever
There is a pretty good editorial in the Herald yesterday, sort of a summary by David Legg, David J Finch, Norm O’Reilly as to what was learned from what they call Olympic sized errors.
One of the main problems they said was council taking over the bid process instead of a grass roots movement like in 1988.
And they also said that council basically took over the accounting and financial aspect of the bid, sort of shutting out the feds and province until late in the game.
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if that's true, then shame on Nenshi for his rant the other day blaming the other levels of government.
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11-19-2018, 07:47 AM
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#1783
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GordonBlue
if that's true, then shame on Nenshi for his rant the other day blaming the other levels of government.
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This is part of what they said.
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Our study identified 10 major issues and offered 11 recommendations to future cities. A few of our key conclusions are relevant to all Calgarians.
Our research suggests that the root causes of the lost plebiscite have little to do with the past 60 days, but date back at least two years, to Calgary city council’s decision to establish the Calgary Bid Exploration Committee, or CBEC, with a $4.7-million operating budget.
By assuming sole control of the 2026 process, councillors made a conscious decision to distance themselves from provincial and federal governments. This approach overlooked the reality that the overwhelming majority of public funding for a Games will come from these governments. This error came back to haunt the city in the final weeks of the plebiscite as Calgary sought to secure funding commitments from these other levels of government.
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Edit: I forgot to include the link to their report.
http://sportanalytics.org/
Last edited by redforever; 11-19-2018 at 08:04 AM.
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11-19-2018, 08:57 AM
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#1784
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Manhattanboy
Dishonest NDP made funds subject to a plebiscite that they knew had little chance of success.
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So what you’re saying is they let their constituents decide on a contentious issue? Those monsters.
#dishonestNDP #crookednotley
Last edited by iggy_oi; 11-19-2018 at 08:59 AM.
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11-19-2018, 09:08 AM
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#1785
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Franchise Player
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11-19-2018, 09:35 AM
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#1786
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Referee
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Over the hill
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
I have my doubts that he'll run provincial, the Liberal Party is a dead brand. The NDP might get washed out in the next election and become political kryptonite in the next election.
He could run Federally, but he might want to take a break before he tries to run under the Liberal Brand Federally, they might not do well in Calgary after the next election.
He's kind of cornered a bit political career wise.
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Nenshi has never been involved in the Liberal party whatsoever to my knowledge either federally or provincially. Not to say he couldn't join now if he wanted to as a candidate but I think it's only fair to note that like him or not (and I continue to like him) he isn't a conventional partisan and hasn't really been involved in party politics in any sort of traditional sense yet.
I'd actually be a bit surprised if he made that kind of jump--he will make far more money in the private sector once he decides to leave municipal politics behind. And it comes with some risk--sometimes municipal politicians find that attaching themselves to a "party brand" makes some of their traditional support evaporate.
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11-19-2018, 10:20 AM
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#1787
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Council just voted to end the bid process.
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11-19-2018, 10:25 AM
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#1788
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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Coun. Peter Demong w motion arising seeking to urge the province and feds to uphold their Olympic funding commitments in order to sustain Calgary as a "winter sport centre of excellence".
$$$ could be used to maintain sport facilities.
Council votes 14-1 in favour. #yycc#yyc
https://twitter.com/mpotkins/status/1064570134193303553
Last edited by Bigtime; 11-19-2018 at 10:29 AM.
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11-19-2018, 10:27 AM
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#1789
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 Posted the 6 millionth post!
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Wow who was the wet blanket that voted No to that? Seems symbolic in nature and really a no-lose motion to pass.
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11-19-2018, 10:30 AM
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#1790
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First Line Centre
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Of the original list of 7 cities as candidates to host the 2026 Olympics, only 2 cities now remain (Stockholm and a group of Italian cities).
The IOC is now concerned they could be facing a situation where no city wants to host.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-flee-10939224
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11-19-2018, 10:35 AM
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#1791
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Wow who was the wet blanket that voted No to that? Seems symbolic in nature and really a no-lose motion to pass.
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That's ridiculous to have a motion to insist that the Federal and Provincial government still contribute 2 billion to the city for an event that isn't going to happen. Especially when you know it won't happen.
The 14 votes are simply idiotic. Why wast time on #### like this? The 1 vote is the only person with any sense of rational thought.
I hope it isn't Chu or Farkas I'm defending here ha.
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11-19-2018, 10:35 AM
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#1792
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Alberta
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Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame
Wow who was the wet blanket that voted No to that? Seems symbolic in nature and really a no-lose motion to pass.
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I know. likely won't happen but what could it hurt to put in the ask?
even getting a couple hundred million would be huge.
at least you could justify it as maintaining important olympic infrastructure for training athletes for all Olympic games no matter where they occur.
although good luck getting a province to give money to support something federal.
Last edited by GordonBlue; 11-19-2018 at 10:39 AM.
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11-19-2018, 10:39 AM
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#1793
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Calgary14
Of the original list of 7 cities as candidates to host the 2026 Olympics, only 2 cities now remain (Stockholm and a group of Italian cities).
The IOC is now concerned they could be facing a situation where no city wants to host.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-flee-10939224
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Which would be awesome, they've made their own bed.
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11-19-2018, 10:39 AM
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#1794
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Calgary
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DCU was the vote against that motion.
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11-19-2018, 01:08 PM
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#1795
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Bigtime
DCU was the vote against that motion.
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Of course she was.
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11-19-2018, 04:49 PM
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#1796
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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If by some miracle they managed to get a penny from the province or feds I'd laugh my ass off if it went to the new flames arena. Federal funding for our local sports team yes please.
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Everyone who disagrees with you is stupid
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11-19-2018, 06:18 PM
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#1797
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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So you aren't gonna host the Olympics, but we're still gonna give you $2 billion to fund renovating and building new facilities, with no big revenue stream to help supplement that in the near future.
Good luck with that.
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11-19-2018, 06:46 PM
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#1798
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Originally Posted by Joborule
So you aren't gonna host the Olympics, but we're still gonna give you $2 billion to fund renovating and building new facilities, with no big revenue stream to help supplement that in the near future.
Good luck with that.
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Well if we do that we (Taxpayers of all 3 levels of government) actually save about 1 billion dollars but lose the value you attribute to the 3 billion or so in operation spending on the games and world wide branding.
And you don’t have to convert the housing back so that aspect becomes a lot and you can design fit for use facilities so save a pile of money there.
The revenue stream of the games is negative. They cost more to operate and secure than they bring in in IOC dollars and sponsorship.
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11-19-2018, 06:57 PM
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#1799
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Virginia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Calgary14
Of the original list of 7 cities as candidates to host the 2026 Olympics, only 2 cities now remain (Stockholm and a group of Italian cities).
The IOC is now concerned they could be facing a situation where no city wants to host.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-flee-10939224
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It seems the Winter Olympics would do well going to some kind of 3-4 city rotation. Maybe 3 permanent cities in the rotation with room to add one off cities who are serious about hosting. It seems like it would be a lot more attractive if you knew you'd get to use the specialized venues a few times.
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