[PGT] Flames come back to beat the Coilers 4-2

[monkeyman]

Not fighting the big meat head was the correct decision, as is proof in the way it's still driving the oil faithful and likely the oil crazy. The oilers acted like a bunch of 2 year olds with absolutely no impulse control and that played right into the Flames hand.
Seriously, the Oil must actively look for players with low IQ's. Maybe management thinks IQ's are like golf scores. Which makes sense since they spend so much time on the golf course every spring.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by Husky

Another interesting item is Hamonic has become a shooting machine the last handful of games.

Agreed.

I think teams cheat a bit towards hannafin and harmonic knows it leaves a lane to get the puck to the net. He had 5 shots on goal last night, including the one leading to Monahan's goal.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by flameester

You are right about everything except Gio is not leading in +/-..

Hard to imagine after the last couple of years but the +/- leader is Brodie

Two years ago was funny. Most of Brodie's minuses were games where Chad Johnson was standing on his head, then Brodie would come on the ice and he would let in a softie from a bad angle. That or Dennis Wideman would get walked, and then Chad Johnson would let in a softie. I bet you Brodie was an plus in front of Elliott. It's a pretty garbage stat for that reason(and for the fact that it punishes PPQBs in 1D 4F setups), but while we're on it:

Brodie was also +4 in 2015-16 the same season Giordano was -5.

Brodie sat at +27 52 games into the 2014-15 season, Giordano was +19 at the same point. He played LD after Gio's injury and with a vastly inferior partner in Engelland so he slipped to +15. But he did lead the team in playoff +/- at +3

Getting Brodie back on the right was definitely a positive decision though. A common sense on if you ask me.

[sa226]

Its funny watching the highlights today. Now that my heart rate has returned to normal.

Aside from the Nurse play on Bennett, I largely think the refs got it right last night. How Nurse got away without an interference penalty on Bennett is beyond me.

The Mcdavid on Backlund play was hilarious, and I'm glad the refs saw it the same way. Backlund absolutely had a high hit on Mcdavid, that he didn't like. From the angle I couldn't tell if it was a penalty or not, but in a "playoff" type intense game like that, those hits happen. What you can't do is horsecollar tackle the guy if you don't like the hit. Rightfully so, the Oilers got the extra penalty in that exchange.

Kassian on Tkachuk. I understand the sentiment that if Tkachuk wants to play the way he plays, sometimes he might have to answer the bell. But why does he have to go with Kassian? Thats a tradeoff the Flames don't need. Watching Tkachuk last night, everything for him was between the whistles, if there was a scrum he was in it. In a game with that intensity nobody is innocent in the scrums. When the clock was running, I think Tkachuk actually played a pretty clean game. Relatively speaking. Kassian's 36mins of penalties were absolutely deserved. During the game, the Draisaitl play on Tkachuk I thought was more of a hockey check that looked worse than it was. Then I saw that the puck wasn't anywhere near them and it was a pretty clear slewfoot. intentional or not. Opposing teams hate Tkachuk and I love it.

Its easier the next day with a win under your belts, but the broadcast last night alluded to a Flames team that couldn't play the physical game the Oilers wanted to.

What I saw was a Flames team that succeeded in getting under the skin of the Oilers, despite playing aweful in the first 35mins. Then played their game and completely turned the tide.

The Flames PP is much better this year than last. Sometimes it sure doesn't look like it, but it is. The one thing its missing is the killer instinct. It has to make a team pay, that gets into penalty trouble.

Whether you trust his mental toughness to carry the load or not, its reached the point where Rittich has to be given the starters role. He has done everything asked of him and then some.

I have always like Burke. But in every media hit I have heard from him since he has left, it makes me wonder what the heck he was doing in his time here. He has been somewhat critical and reluctant to give praise. I wonder if he is going out of his way to not seem biased. Or maybe he's just being Brian Burke.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by jschick88

Reading through twitter. Man, Oilers media really got bent out of shape over Chucky. I love it. But in all honesty, calling themselves professionals is a joke. Bob Stauffer should be ashamed. Here's one of them.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1064042678407520259

So let me make sure I understand the logic here:
- Our best player, 20 year Old, 200 lbs Tkachuk was being mean to their 21 year old, 200 lbs best player McDavid during a scrum that McDavid started with Backlund.
- As a result, the Oiler media feels that our best player should therefore have to answer to goon Kassian?
- And given he didn’t, the Oilers goons should target Gaudreau (as if they don’t already target him with weasley slashes)?

Am I missing anything from their messed up logic? Such a victim mentality. How about McDavid stick up for himself. It’s not like it was Peluso or even Hathaway getting into it with him, it’s best player on best.

This is more Iginla vs Lecavallier than how they are trying to spin it. This is not Hunter on Gretzky like they are trying to make out. Our skilled players got rough with theirs and they are whining and moaning about it..... I love it!

[TheMagicMan]

I've never seen a triple minor issued before. Why do you think the ref went with that call on Kassian vs. giving him a fighting major?

Should have just given him also a triple 10 minutes misconduct as well then vs a single 10.

[TopChed]

We need a gif of Tkachuk flicking his hair back at Kassian after he got jumped. Thought that was hilarious.

[Otto-matic]

Ritter confirmed starter tomorrow against Vegas.

[flamesforcup]

Oilers media is absolutely pathetic. IF some plug from the Flames tried fighting Mcdavid they would start crying. Why the hell should Tkachuk fight Kassian? They cant get that through their small little minds

[chummer]

Originally Posted by TheMagicMan

I've never seen a triple minor issued before. Why do you think the ref went with that call on Kassian vs. giving him a fighting major?

Should have just given him also a triple 10 minutes misconduct as well then vs a single 10.

I agree but that came from arguably the best referee in the game, Wes Macauley. But yeah I'd love to hear his explanation for it.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by flamesforcup

Oilers media is absolutely pathetic. IF some plug from the Flames tried fighting Mcdavid they would start crying. Why the hell should Tkachuk fight Kassian? They cant get that through their small little minds

I have an Oiler friend who said McDavid shouldn’t fight Tkachuk because McDavid is much smaller. But their size discrepancy is the same exact difference between Tkachuk and Kassian

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Matheson on the first period Backlund/McDavid run in ...



Didn't McDavid have Backlund's neck?

Matheson is far past his expiry but what is it with that media? If you didn't see the game and just went by their version of the events you would think the Flames were running around all night making dirty attempts to injure and the Oilers dominated only to lose based on the bad luck and the Flames playing dirty. There is never any credit given towards the Flames for playing a smart game and totally outplaying the Oilers in the 2nd half of the game. Flames played a clean game and executed a game plan of making things unpleasant for McDavid. McLellan being forced to put Lucic on the first line late in the game is a major win for the Flames.

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Matheson is far past his expiry but what is it with that media? If you didn't see the game and just went by their version of the events you would think the Flames were running around all night making dirty attempts to injure and the Oilers dominated only to lose based on the bad luck and the Flames playing dirty. There is never any credit given towards the Flames for playing a smart game and totally outplaying the Oilers in the 2nd half of the game. Flames played a clean game and executed a game plan of making things unpleasant for McDavid. McLellan being forced to put Lucic on the first line late in the game is a major win for the Flames.

Been like this for a while. Oiler media/sportsnet feed average hockey fans bull#### and a lot of lies. In this case the flames come out looking like the bad guys. Reasonable hockey fan or someone who watches the game would know the truth.

[Coach]

I'm okay playing the bad guys against the spoiled prince brat Oilers.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by CgyFlamesftw

Been like this for a while. Oiler media/sportsnet feed average hockey fans bull#### and a lot of lies. In this case the flames come out looking like the bad guys. Reasonable hockey fan or someone who watches the game would know the truth.

Yeah as fans at HF seem to be more upset about the Oilers 3rd period rather than complain about the way the Flames played. Still it's funny how many of them think the Flames roster is somehow in the same ballpark as the Oilers.

[soulchoice]

Originally Posted by flames_fan_down_under

Loved seeing so much emotion, fights, hits, scrums and chirping! That's what the BOA is all about.

How about that stat that Lucic has 2 goals in his last 60+ games? I thought that was shocking. I had no idea his offence had dried up that much. I knew he was struggling but that is jaw droppingly bad.

Lindholm is such a smart player and really a treat to watch. Not a lot of weaknesses in his game.

Felt like Johnny deserved a goal today, he was flying around all night making some Oilers players look absolutely foolish. That hit from behind was egregious too, and I heard one of the commentators say that Johnny turned into the boards, that's BS because I have seen that called a penalty a hundred times. I also think he is a little banged up from that cross check he took to the ribs against a team I can't remember at the moment, maybe Chicago?

I believe you may be referring to the cross check from Getzlaf in the last minute vs Anaheim.

[Manhattanboy]

Surprised more has not been made about that viscous hit on Johnny from behind. Head first into the boards.

Clearly 4 minute boarding, possibly 5 min and game, that did not get called.

He could have been badly hurt.

Don’t know who hit him, tried to find the play, quite disappointed it went unanswered.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

Surprised more has not been made in that viscous hit on Johnny from behind. Head first into the boards.

Clearly 4 minute boarding, possibly 5 min and game, that did not get called.

He could have been badly hurt.

Don’t know who hit him, tried to find the play, quite disappointed it went unanswered.

That's what I said earlier. That should have been 4 minutes at minimum and to me it looks like officials this season have put their whistles away a lot when teams take liberties with Gaudreau. I'm at a loss why there was no penally there as it was in plain view of the official. Flames are really lucky he didn't get hurt there at is was a very dangerous play.

[Coach]

Agreed with the Gaudreau hit, has gone unspoken. If a Flame did that to McDavid there would be a riot in Edmonton and probably a suspension. Instead we just get to thank the hockey lords our best player doesn't have a broken neck.

He did turn at the last moment, which used to be an excuse for a hit from behind but isnt anymore. He shouldn't do that though because that's what ends up happening, and suspension or not he's no help to anyone hurt.

[wired]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah as fans at HF seem to be more upset about the Oilers 3rd period rather than complain about the way the Flames played. Still it's funny how many of them think the Flames roster is somehow in the same ballpark as the Oilers.

The Flames are(to me at least) a very fragile team. They can be very good, or so bad its astounding.
I was super happy with the last part of the game last night, but it could have easily not gone the way it did.
I give the credit to Super Dave, Sammy, Mikey and Harmonic (sp).