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View Poll Results: Are you for or against Calgary hosting the 2026 Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games?
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I am for Calgary hosting
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55.66% |
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I am against Calgary hosting
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11-06-2018, 08:08 PM
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#182
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Join Date: Apr 2012
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Pretty sure it was the Yes side saying that the negative numbers on the city feedback side were due to the No side using bots. Another case of projecting in politics.
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11-06-2018, 08:10 PM
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#183
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Originally Posted by Calgary14
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I mean it went from like 70% no to 40% no in like 2 days.
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11-06-2018, 08:17 PM
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#184
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
And I would guess in the general public you'd see 40% and 60%. But both of those deals were objectively terrible, whereas this one is far more reasonable.
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In a poll on support for CalgaryNext taken in 2016, 55% of Calgarypuck respondents opposed it, while 25% were in favour.
A few months earlier, in a poll taken by Mainstreet, 34% of Calgarians opposed it, while 39% supported it. About a year later (months after the CP poll), Mainstreet ran another poll with 51% opposed and 40% in favour.
While support dwindled and opposition rose, neither came close to the levels CP, a supposedly sport-friendly demographic, reached months prior.
To say that CP skews further in support of tax funded sports projects than the general public is not founded.
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11-06-2018, 08:25 PM
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#185
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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A very detailed report from the Canada West Foundation: http://cwf.ca/wp-content/uploads/201...picsReport.pdf
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Executive Summary
The Winter Olympic and Paralympic Games are a celebration of winter sport – and winter spirit. That is part of what makes the idea of the Winter Games so exciting to Canadians. But the Games are also a major undertaking. Before a Calgary 2026 Winter Games bid goes ahead, the communities involved need to ask hard questions about whether or not a bid is worth it. The economics of the Games receive a lot of attention, and that makes sense – how governments spend money is important to us. But there is also more to the Games than just money.
The assumption underlying this report is that a fiscally responsible bid is necessary, but it is not sufficient. There also needs to be something more. The personal and community social benefits from hosting the Games and the capital investment legacy is that “something.”
This report explores the costs, risks, benefits and opportunities of a Calgary 2026 Winter Games from economic, social, cultural, environmental, political and other perspectives.
From this analysis, two key questions stood out:
Is the Calgary 2026 Games bid an economical, cost-effective and responsible approach?
Would the Games provide significant benefits for the host region?
The answer to both these questions is yes.
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11-06-2018, 08:28 PM
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#186
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Canmore town council has voted to support the bid (6-1 vote in favour)...
https://twitter.com/user/status/1060006967958110209
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11-06-2018, 08:29 PM
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#187
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Originally Posted by getbak
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What. The. ####? Still?
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Originally Posted by Calgary14
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I already used my WTF up there, but I wonder how many "accounts" they setup here to astroturf on CP.
Hell, given all the other shenanigans Bidco have been caught doing already, I wouldn't be surprised if they already funneled a wads of money to a bunch of Russians to hack those counting machines . . .
. . . I can't decide if that last sentence should be in green text or not.
Last edited by chemgear; 11-06-2018 at 08:32 PM.
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11-06-2018, 08:32 PM
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#188
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
We will be Two-time Olympic Hosts.
Vancouver one.
Edmonton, none.
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Even more reason to vote yes now.
E=NG
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11-06-2018, 09:16 PM
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#189
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by Calgary14
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Wow...how absurd of them.
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11-06-2018, 09:53 PM
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#190
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: North Pole
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Wife and I will be voting yes on the 13th.
Only my 2 cents but the way things seem - city council will disregard a yes majority if it occurs.
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11-06-2018, 09:55 PM
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#191
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Originally Posted by getbak
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Not surprising considering they said they are supporting it on the condition that their costs are all covered. Who wouldn’t vote for millions in freebies from the province/feds/Calgary?
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11-06-2018, 10:01 PM
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#192
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Not surprising considering they said they are supporting it on the condition that their costs are all covered. Who wouldn’t vote for millions in freebies from the province/feds/Calgary?
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It would complete the circle for Calgary Bidco to announce that they won't cover their expenses or overruns.
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11-06-2018, 10:57 PM
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#193
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: A place for Mom
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
Pretty sure it was the Yes side saying that the negative numbers on the city feedback side were due to the No side using bots. Another case of projecting in politics.
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11-06-2018, 11:01 PM
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#194
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Originally Posted by CroFlames
We will be Two-time Olympic Hosts.
Vancouver one.
Edmonton, none.
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I'm pretty confident NHL players would be going to a 2026 Canadian Olympics.
I'm pretty confident we're going to have a new arena by then.
Might just have to vote yes for the pure fact of McDavid having to spend 2 weeks in our arena and city thinking how much better it is compared to that Rogers dump in Edmonton. (Odds are he plays for team Canada barring injury or massive slump)
I have one condition though. Jamaican Bobsledders.
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11-06-2018, 11:05 PM
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#195
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Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll
Not surprising considering they said they are supporting it on the condition that their costs are all covered. Who wouldn’t vote for millions in freebies from the province/feds/Calgary?
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Canmore will contribute $3M towards the games.
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11-06-2018, 11:09 PM
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#196
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The Mayor's six minute or so video explaining his reasons for supporting the bid. A worthwhile listen.
https://www.facebook.com/yescalgary2...5010948284185/
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11-06-2018, 11:36 PM
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#198
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Voting no.
I've been an ardent Nenshi supporter for almost a decade, but this issue has turned me against him. I'll vote for anyone but Nenshi next municipal election.
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11-06-2018, 11:41 PM
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#199
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Calgary
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Also CP definitely skews towards not giving massive corporate handouts. The fact that this poll only shows 45% no is a definite concern, as it would project to a landslide "yes" in the general public. I would expect the generally reasonable people of CP not to be complete idiots, but I guess that's too much to hope for in this case.
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11-07-2018, 12:09 AM
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#200
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Originally Posted by Regorium
Also CP definitely skews towards not giving massive corporate handouts. The fact that this poll only shows 45% no is a definite concern, as it would project to a landslide "yes" in the general public. I would expect the generally reasonable people of CP not to be complete idiots, but I guess that's too much to hope for in this case.
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I imagine privacy of each forum member, and which way they voted was paramount to any transparency considerations.
Or it was hastily created, without deliberation. 
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