GT: 2018 US Midterm Elections

[Thor]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Amendment 4 passes in Florida... given that it disproportionately affects African Americans that means that Democrats should have a bit better go there in two years time.

That is allot of highly motivated, mostly minority voters 1.4 million) who are very motivated to vote against the Republicans, remember the 2 big races in Florida were just lost by just under 100k and 50k respectively.

This is huge for 2020

[Senator Clay Davis]

Originally Posted by photon

I was hoping for a stronger repudiation as most probably were.

And I fear a backlash if Dems go too far with trying to go after Trump.. Yes I know what's good for the goose should be good for the gander, and if Republicans can have Benghazi hearing after Benghazi hearing then why can't Dems.. I just don't think Dem voters are the same and will turn away if what Dems do have even a sniff of petty partisanship.

Investigate away, but make it all look ultra professional IMO.

They just need to keep it simple, investigate the money issues and leave the porn star stuff to the tabloids.

[nfotiu]

Interesting that the Kavanaugh hearings seemed to be huge in losing the Indiana senate seat and probably a couple others. I was in favor of how the Democrat senators handled it at the time, but they paid a price politically.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by belsarius

This is the dumbest thing I read all night. Thanks, I needed the chuckle.

This is the most ignorant thing I've read all night.

It's all well and good to sit back here and play armchair political QB, but I think you and everyone expecting a big blue wave are naive and vastly under (or over, depending on your perspective) estimating the motivations of the American people... When it comes down to those actually casting the votes, just as GullFoss said - it's the economy, stupid.

My business is almost entirely based in the US with American clients and customers from coast to coast that I speak to on a daily basis. The one thing they all have in common, when it really (really) comes down to it is that personal economic interest trumps (excuse the pun) ALL ELSE. USA! USA! USA!

I also find that the average citizen (can't say whether they're voters or not) is, at best, casually interested in politics and the details of what their elected leaders are doing on a day to day basis. The news cycle moves so fast, and their lives are otherwise so busy (or distracted) that they barely grasp the headlines, let alone have the patience (or attention span) to look any deeper.

What they do know is that employment is up, people are busy spending money and even if just by the seat of their pants, things in their day to day lives seem pretty good right now.

Racist remarks from the POTUS? Oh, that's in bad taste... but I can afford that new truck!

Children in cages? Eww, that's pretty bad... But they're not my kids & hey, I just got a new OLED TV, so things can't be that bad.


That is all this comes down to. Basically it's marketing... Whether true or not or even demonstrably false, the Republicans are branded as the 'good economy' party. And when things seem to be good, no matter what else is going on, people's self interest and ignorance means no one wants the party to stop.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

They just need to keep it simple, investigate the money issues and leave the porn star stuff to the tabloids.

And maybe mix in a little productive governing from time to time.

[Senator Clay Davis]

^^Umm yeah the Republicans lost tonight. Picking up a couple Senate seats is nice, losing all the House committees is spectacularly awful.

[photon]

What's the over under on the number of government shutdowns between now and 2020?

[nik-]

Steve King is losing

[theinfinitejar]

God I hope Scott Walker eats #### tonight.

[direwolf]

Sounds like it's almost official.

NATE SILVER10:55 PM

ABC PROJECTS THAT DEMOCRATS WILL WIN THE HOUSE

NATHANIEL RAKICH10:58 PM

After a bit of a sluggish start, Democrats started picking up not only the seats that leaned to them, but some tougher races as well. Now it’s time to watch the margin — which definitely matters in terms of giving Nancy Pelosi (or whoever the next speaker is!) room to maneuver in terms of floor votes.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by nik-

Steve King is losing

That should make Stephen King happy., he apparently hated being confused with that racist a**.

[belsarius]

Originally Posted by you&me

This is the most ignorant thing I've read all night.

It's all well and good to sit back here and play armchair political QB, but I think you and everyone expecting a big blue wave are naive and vastly under (or over, depending on your perspective) estimating the motivations of the American people... When it comes down to those actually casting the votes, just as GullFoss said - it's the economy, stupid.

My business is almost entirely based in the US with American clients and customers from coast to coast that I speak to on a daily basis. The one thing they all have in common, when it really (really) comes down to it is that personal economic interest trumps (excuse the pun) ALL ELSE. USA! USA! USA!

I also find that the average citizen (can't say whether they're voters or not) is, at best, casually interested in politics and the details of what their elected leaders are doing on a day to day basis. The news cycle moves so fast, and their lives are otherwise so busy (or distracted) that they barely grasp the headlines, let alone have the patience (or attention span) to look any deeper.

What they do know is that employment is up, people are busy spending money and even if just by the seat of their pants, things in their day to day lives seem pretty good right now.

Racist remarks from the POTUS? Oh, that's in bad taste... but I can afford that new truck!

Children in cages? Eww, that's pretty bad... But they're not my kids & hey, I just got a new OLED TV, so things can't be that bad.


That is all this comes down to. Basically it's marketing... Whether true or not or even demonstrably false, the Republicans are branded as the 'good economy' party. And when things seem to be good, no matter what else is going on, people's self interest and ignorance means no one wants the party to stop.

I never said it wasn't about the economy. Your ignorance is that fact that you want to defend the idea that Trump "saved" anything. Every economic indicator that Gullfoss pointed too is either on the exact same best fit line as Obama or is actually flattening out since Trump took over.

The best Trump has done is not mess up the economy that Obama has left him. Nothing he has done has shown any more positive results than was already being accomplished under Obama. The average Joe has seen wage increases for the past decade. Hours have been improving. Consumer confidence is growing at the exact same rate as Obama left it. There isn't a singe economic indication that Trump has been responsible for anything different than he was left with.

The ignorance of the pro-Trump, is that you believe he is responsible for "turning around" an economy that was already operating with a lot of steam and strength.

I won't argue that you can forget everything else and focus on the economy. But the true ignorance is to believe that Trump is doing any better economically than his predecessor.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

God I hope Scott Walker eats #### tonight.

Ugh I hope not. I am a huge fan.

[Senator Clay Davis]

LOL Nate calls it and the model immediately drops to 50/50.

[theinfinitejar]

Originally Posted by the_only_turek_fan

Ugh I hope not. I am a huge fan.

I mean literally. A giant bowl.

[Bagor]

When is a wave not a wave?

Looks like the Democrats are taking control of the house picking up an estimated 37 seats.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Trump's tax returns will be fun.

[direwolf]

Man, the GOP got demolished in Pennsylvania. Good stuff.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Dems projected to win the national popular vote for the House by around 8%. Just imagine if they had fair districts.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/...-forecast.html

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by you&me

This is the most ignorant thing I've read all night.

It's all well and good to sit back here and play armchair political QB, but I think you and everyone expecting a big blue wave are naive and vastly under (or over, depending on your perspective) estimating the motivations of the American people... When it comes down to those actually casting the votes, just as GullFoss said - it's the economy, stupid.

My business is almost entirely based in the US with American clients and customers from coast to coast that I speak to on a daily basis. The one thing they all have in common, when it really (really) comes down to it is that personal economic interest trumps (excuse the pun) ALL ELSE. USA! USA! USA!

I also find that the average citizen (can't say whether they're voters or not) is, at best, casually interested in politics and the details of what their elected leaders are doing on a day to day basis. The news cycle moves so fast, and their lives are otherwise so busy (or distracted) that they barely grasp the headlines, let alone have the patience (or attention span) to look any deeper.

What they do know is that employment is up, people are busy spending money and even if just by the seat of their pants, things in their day to day lives seem pretty good right now.

Racist remarks from the POTUS? Oh, that's in bad taste... but I can afford that new truck!

Children in cages? Eww, that's pretty bad... But they're not my kids & hey, I just got a new OLED TV, so things can't be that bad.


That is all this comes down to. Basically it's marketing... Whether true or not or even demonstrably false, the Republicans are branded as the 'good economy' party. And when things seem to be good, no matter what else is going on, people's self interest and ignorance means no one wants the party to stop.

Um.... this is a hilariously bad take on a night when the Democrats look poised to win the congressional ballot by nine percentage points and retake control of the House of Representatives.