A quarter century of misery

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Great minds think alike. From last December:

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Last 30 seasons of being a Flames fan:

16/17 Lost 4-0 in 1st round
15/16 Missed Playoffs
14/15 Lost 4-1 in 2nd round
13/14 Missed Playoffs
12/13 Missed Playoffs
11/12 Missed Playoffs
10/11 Missed Playoffs
09/10 Missed Playoffs
08/09 Lost 4-2 in 1st round
07/08 Lost 4-3 in 1st round
06/07 Lost 4-2 in 1st round
05/06 Lost 4-3 in 1st round
03/04 Lost 4-3 in SCF
02/03 Missed Playoffs
01/02 Missed Playoffs
00/01 Missed Playoffs
99/00 Missed Playoffs
98/99 Missed Playoffs
97/98 Missed Playoffs
96/97 Missed Playoffs
95/96 Lost 4-0 in 1st round
94/95 Lost 4-3 in 1st round
93/94 Lost 4-3 in 1st round (to Canucks)
92/93 Lost 4-2 in 1st round
91/92 Missed Playoffs
90/91 Lost 4-3 in 1st round (to Oilers)
89/90 Lost 4-2 in 1st round
88/89 Won SC
87/88 Lost 4-0 in 2nd round (to Oilers)
86/87 Lost 4-2 in 1st round (to Jets)


Seeing it all typed out like that gives it a bit more impact I think. Saying it isn't enough. That's a long, depressing list of playoff futility.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

We're the Cincinnati Bengals of the NHL. We do well enough in the regular season to not have Cleveland Browns-like losing notoriety, but we have a complete inability to perform consistently or when the stakes matter. We're neither lovable losers nor a good hockey team, we're in the blahs of permanent mediocrity, which has to be one of the most insidious places to be as a fan.

As a Browns fan I can tell you being a lovable loser is really over-rated. I'd be over the moon to be as good as the Bengals have been.

[The Cobra]

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In 2003-2004, they didn't really catch lightening in a bottle.

The only series they played against someone with a superior record was the final series they lost.

In every other series, they played a team with a worse regular season record.

Now, you might claim that they were fortunate in catching teams that may have upset some better teams, but the Flames that year were much better in the 2nf half than the first (after Kipper started playing for them). it really wasn't a shock that team went quite far in the playoffs.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

In 2003-2004, they didn't really catch lightening in a bottle.

The only series they played against someone with a superior record was the final series they lost.

In every other series, they played a team with a worse regular season record.

Now, you might claim that they were fortunate in catching teams that may have upset some better teams, but the Flames that year were much better in the 2nf half than the first (after Kipper started playing for them). it really wasn't a shock that team went quite far in the playoffs.

I'm confused: They had 94 points. Vancouver, Detroit and San Jose all had more.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

In 2003-2004, they didn't really catch lightening in a bottle.

The only series they played against someone with a superior record was the final series they lost.

In every other series, they played a team with a worse regular season record.

Now, you might claim that they were fortunate in catching teams that may have upset some better teams, but the Flames that year were much better in the 2nf half than the first (after Kipper started playing for them). it really wasn't a shock that team went quite far in the playoffs.

We finished with 94 points. Canucks has 101, Wings had 109 (won presidents trophy) and Sharks had 104. We beat the top 3 seeds in the West. Until the Kings won from the 8th seed the 04 team accomplished an unprecedented run of knocking off top teams.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by troutman

As a Browns fan I can tell you being a lovable loser is really over-rated. I'd be over the moon to be as good as the Bengals have been.

True, we should feel lucky to not be Columbus, Arizona, or Florida fans and that's it.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

We finished with 94 points. Canucks has 101, Wings had 109 (won presidents trophy) and Sharks had 104. We beat the top 3 seeds in the West. Until the Kings won from the 8th seed the 04 team accomplished an unprecedented run of knocking off top teams.

7th seed Anaheim did something pretty similar the year before, beating Detroit (2nd) and Dallas (1st) before they met 6th seed Minnie in the WCF.

But back to '04, the Wings had Datsyuk, Hull, Yzerman, Shanahan, Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Chelios, Draper (who won the Selke), Cujo and a bunch of really good supporting guys.

The Canucks had Naslund, Bertuzzi, Morrison, the twins, Linden, Ohlund, Salo, Sopel, Jovo (terrible goaltending though).

SJ had Marleau, Cheecho (in his good year), Sturm, Ekman, Hannan, Stuart, Thornton, two pretty decent goalies, and an overall well rounded team.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

True, we should feel lucky to not be Columbus, Arizona, or Florida fans and that's it.

Look north.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

In 2003-2004, they didn't really catch lightening in a bottle.

The only series they played against someone with a superior record was the final series they lost.

In every other series, they played a team with a worse regular season record.

Now, you might claim that they were fortunate in catching teams that may have upset some better teams, but the Flames that year were much better in the 2nf half than the first (after Kipper started playing for them). it really wasn't a shock that team went quite far in the playoffs.

Wow. This post could not have been more wrong.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

In 2003-2004, they didn't really catch lightening in a bottle.

The only series they played against someone with a superior record was the final series they lost.

In every other series, they played a team with a worse regular season record.

Now, you might claim that they were fortunate in catching teams that may have upset some better teams, but the Flames that year were much better in the 2nf half than the first (after Kipper started playing for them). it really wasn't a shock that team went quite far in the playoffs.

Calgary 42-30-7 94 points 6th in the west last 10 regular season 6-4 12 points



Round one Vancouver 43-24-10-5 101 points 3rd in the west 6-2-1-1 14 points

Round two Detroit 48-21-11-2 109 first in the West 6-3-1 13 points

Round three San Jose 43-21-12-6 104 points 2nd in the west 8-2 16 points

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by troutman

As a Browns fan I can tell you being a lovable loser is really over-rated. I'd be over the moon to be as good as the Bengals have been.

How and why does one become a Brown fan?

[robertsfan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Look north.

I can't see anything, the Stanley cups are obstructing my vision.

Joke is on us Flames fans.

[tvp2003]

Being a sports fan in Calgary... not an easy task:

1990 to 1994 - Flames losing in the first round every year
1994 to 1997 - Stampeders choking in the playoffs
1997 to 2002 - Young Guns!
2002 to 2004 - Feterik + Fateri!
2005 to 2013 - Flames can't even win a single playoff round
2015 to 2017 - Stampeders choking in the playoffs... again.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Look north.

That’s true for the same time period. However what keeps selling tickets up there today and why in places like Red Deer there’s more Oiler fans than Flames fans is because at least they have their drug of choice ‘the past.’ We can look back at that time period and lament at more misssed opportunities and underachievement.

[stamps]

Been through it all ... Stanley Cup was awesome and will be again ... don’t care about what other teams have done in the past or will do in the future ...win or lose Flames fan til the end ..

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Iggy City

A coach that can whip players into shape and punish them with bag skates, swear words, benching and whatever else when they're being lazy.

Gulutzan was a god damn joke and ruined this team for 2 years....and we're still seeing the affects.

We need a Sutter type coach to instill a culture of hard work into this team.

To be fair, I was in favour of Sutter himself. Was the guy I wanted due to the lack of drive/motivation seeping through the lineup over the course of GG's tenure.

But it's still very early for Bill and so far he's done everything in-game that we could possibly ask of him.

So if this inconsistency in preparation continues we may need to look at a core transplant to really shoot some life into the team in a meaningful way.

Hamilton may have been part of that disease but he wasn't the only one since it's clear the GAF culture issue still exists without him.

[JD]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

SJ had Marleau, Cheecho (in his good year), Sturm, Ekman, Hannan, Stuart, Thornton, two pretty decent goalies, and an overall well rounded team.

Should be noted, that was Scott Thornton, who wasn't really a good player. That Sharks team did have the very notable Mike Ricci, who was, incidentally, ugly, as well as a still-effective Vincent Damphousse.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Something need to fundamentally change in this organization to make it a winning franchise. What is it?

The same thing it's always been. A franchise center. Not Sean Monahan. Not Craig Conroy. Not Daymond Langkow. Not Olli Jokinen. The closest thing they have ever had was Marc Savard and he was out of shape and the coach hated him - without Bob Hartley he may never have realized his potential.

In the Flames' glory days they had Gilmour and Nieuwendyk.

You gotta be willing to go through growing pains for a franchise C. That means both terrible seasons and seasons where you keep throwing your talented center out there every shift through limited production and mistakes. The Avs did both for and with Nathan MacKinnon and while they presently lack the depth to capitalize, it's not far off for them especially as they have oodles of cap space.

Truth is, unless you have that kind of elite talent down the middle, you have no excuse to be a cap team. You're better off being patient and frugal than on the treadmill.

[Aarongavey]

C=ng

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Badgers Nose

How and why does one become a Brown fan?

1979, 1980

The Kardiac Kids

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979..._Browns_season

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980..._Browns_season