[PGT] Flames get taken to the woodshed, thumped 9-1 by the Pens

[redforever]

Originally Posted by gullfoss

peter's need to show these clowns there will be consequences. Bag skate them for hours. Verbally berate them. Sit monahan. He needs to do something.

He can't just say, "were not winning puck battles, lack of foot speed, not good enough." that's meaningless cheap talk.

He needs to do something meaningful. this is where darryl sutter shines. He knows how to take advantages of emotions to get his message across. You will play hard or you will not play. This is the battleground. This is the hill to die on.

amen!!!

[redforever]

Originally Posted by DiracSpike

I recall a game in 2002ish when they lost 8-0 to Nashville. Also at home.

Lost something like 9-0 or 11-0 against the Sabres too, when Johnson was the coach. That was something like a 9 game losing stretch.

[Strange Brew]

If the coach has to pull out every hard ass tactic he has after 10 games, we are in for a long season.

At some point, the players on this team are going to need to figure out if outworking the other team and actually playing hard at the start of a game is something they want to do. Otherwise, this will be a team that can only play well in stretches.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by redforever

Lost something like 9-0 or 11-0 against the Sabres too, when Johnson was the coach. That was something like a 9 game losing stretch.

And the Flames went to the SC finals that year.

[DazzlinDino]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Peter's need to show these clowns there will be consequences. Bag skate them for hours. Verbally berate them. Sit Monahan. He needs to do something.

He can't just say, "were not winning puck battles, lack of foot speed, not good enough." That's meaningless cheap talk.

He needs to do something meaningful. This is where Darryl Sutter shines. He knows how to take advantages of emotions to get his message across. You will play hard or you will not play. This is the battleground. This is the hill to die on.

Darryl Sutter would have been asking in Montreal why we gave up 3 goals when we scored more then enough to win. He didn't tolerate his teams being outworked, or his goaltender's playing average or below average. If the team was playing well defensively he wouldn't let the goalie off the hook and vice versa. There was no excuses with Sutter, if your top line didn't outplay the other team at both ends of the ice they would hear about it. Sutter seemed to have a very strong pulse on the team. That said I think Peters is a good coach and can get this figured out. Still my preference was for BT to get go with an experienced coach like Sutter instead of swinging for the fences.

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by redforever

Lost something like 9-0 or 11-0 against the Sabres too, when Johnson was the coach. That was something like a 9 game losing stretch.

Was this the season Vernon came up from the minors and ripped it up? 86?

[Red]

Tough loss but at least the Pens paid a price for it. They are leaving red, blue and purple. NHL take note, the dome is not a friendly place. Dont ever expec to come here, punch our yound star in the throat, beat us by 8 goals and leave unscaved. Not here. We may loose on the scorsheet, but you will have to earn it.

FML, may as well put these pussies in skirts. What a discrace of a hockey team. 0 fighting majors, 0 roughing. Has a team ever lost by 8 without roughing or fighting?Where are Sutter and Grats? We need some mojo here. This team is and has been the softest in the NHL for the last few years. Results are as expected. Gutless teams win nothing.

[Mathgod]

For anyone who was wondering if this team is a contender, you just got your answer...

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

If the coach has to pull out every hard ass tactic he has after 10 games, we are in for a long season.

At some point, the players on this team are going to need to figure out if outworking the other team and actually playing hard at the start of a game is something they want to do. Otherwise, this will be a team that can only play well in stretches.

I think you're missing the point. This is a golden opportunity. The game was embarrassing. Full stop. Every player in that dressing room should feel bad. Embarrassed. Literally every player save Dube and Andersson quit on the game. Gio quit. Monahan quit. Tkachuk quit. Backlund quit. They quite on their goalie, on their teammates. They ####ing losers. HOw many fights? How many big hits?

The team - collectively - will never be as open to Peters' message as they will be this evening and tomorrow. If he wants to hammer home his message, this will be his best opportunity.

[ThisIsAnOutrage]

Paid good money to watch that trip to turd town with my own eyes. What really, really, really, drove me nuts is that the Flames actually produced a lot of good scoring chances BUT THEY JUST CAN"T PULL THE TRIGGER!


The theme for the whole debacle was set when Neal hesitated for 600 hours before trying to shoot into a once-gaping cage on a beautiful cross-crease pass, Murray got across to make to the save. After that, it was all whiffs, extra passes, more hesitations, and missing the net.


The way the Flames gave up the third goal to the Penguins was particularly infuriating. Two, TWO, Flames just skate backward until whoever it was for Pens is right there in prime territory in the slot. Garbage. Absolute Garbage. Edit: it was Rust backing up Hamonic and Hanifin.


Aside, Kessel was great.

[fire_starter]

I was listening in on the radio and they mentioned how the flames are 2nd worst for giving up the most high danger chances 5v5. Surprisingly the ducks are the worst. I thought we won that category by a long shot.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by timbit

And the Flames went to the SC finals that year.

yup

[jonkaupp]

Hamilton for Hanifin is a wash lmao

[minnow]

Originally Posted by crapshoot

Hey, at least James Neal showed up!

I physically laughed at that. Sigh.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil

Was this the season Vernon came up from the minors and ripped it up? 86?

Yes, think so. Both Vernon and Roy were rookies that year if I remember correct.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Red

Tough loss but at least the Pens paid a price for it. They are leaving red, blue and purple. NHL take note, the dome is not a friendly place. Dont ever expec to come here, punch our yound star in the throut, beat us by 8 goals and leave unscaved. Not here. We may loose on the scorsheet, but you will have to earn it.

FML, may as well put these pussies in skirts. What a discrace of a hockey team. 0 fighting majors, 0 roughing. Has a teamnever lost by 8 without roughing or fighting?Where are Sutter and Grats? We need some mojo here. This team is and has been the softest in the NHL for the last few years. Results are as expected. Gutless teams win nothing.

Can't thank this enough. It's on point.

[TheKurgan]

Well that was my first and last game at the Dome this season.

The shot by Crosby on the first goal was amazing, very little room on that one. Second goal was a nasty redirection right in front of Smith, hard to blame him on. Everything after that was dog shirt. Worst part of the game was how little emotion and effort from the Flames after they where down a few. By the time Peters pulled Smith the team had basically quit. Pathetic. Even after Neil's 'soft as puppy poop' goal we couldn't keep it out of the back of our net for the on ice goal announcement to be finished.

At the end half the crowd was cheering for 10 goals...

[Ozy_Flame]

Trying to understand how Bill Peters is still a good choice considering he's never coached an NHL playoffs game. Still to early to tell though.

[CaptainCrunch]

Disgusting, vomit inducing, terrible, garbage.


Honestly I've watched the Flames since they came to Calgary, and I've seen them get their faces kicked in. I remember a 12-4 loss to Detroit before Detroit was good, a blow out by the Whalers. I thought I'd seen it all. But never have I ever seen such a shameful display in front of their home town fans.


There's a point of pride of being the home team. Its your rink its your fans. To go out and lay a stinker like this is just . . . BS.


I've been concerned over the last few games. I haven't been all that impressed with the effort level away from the puck.


Maybe this team decided they were all that with a box of crackers, I don't know. But to me, these players need to go home in their expensive cars, to their expensive houses and find the biggest most expensive mirror that they own and take a good hard look at them.


To me this is a far more talented team then last year, but the old saying is that hard work will beat talent when talent doesn't work hard.


The big thing is this, if this team comes out and against the Stanley Cup Champions and puts in a end to end redemptive effort then fine, I have my doubts until they prove it to me as a fan. But if they come out and lay out a stinker, I don't know where they go from here.



But over the last 3 games its just not working.

[redforever]

Why did we invest all that money on Neal and Ryan instead of on a goalie?