Point to a single act of violence,maybe even multiple acts against a Cascade of right wing terror that has plagued the US for decades. Then call it both sides.
For 18 months in 1971 and 1972 there were over 2,500 political bombings carried out by radical leftists in the U.S. That's almost five a day. Hardly an act or two.
But hey, let's allow these threats to whip up even more partisan fury. Because if people get even more angry and full of hate, if they recognize the Other Side are all truly evil and contemptible human beings, then... what?
I mean, what's the end game of stoking partisan rage? Walk my simple utilitarian mind through how it will make the U.S. a better place.
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For 18 months in 1971 and 1972 there were over 2,500 political bombings carried out by radical leftists in the U.S. That's almost five a day. Hardly an act or two.
But hey, let's allow these threats to whip up even more partisan fury. Because if people get even more angry and full of hate, if they recognize the Other Side are all truly evil and contemptible human beings, then... what?
I mean, what's the end of game of stoking partisan rage? Walk my simple utilitarian mind through how it will make the U.S. a better place.
1972 was almost 50 years ago...
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Point to a single act of violence,maybe even multiple acts against a Cascade of right wing terror that has plagued the US for decades. Then call it both sides.
Don’t be daft. There is a well known coordinated campaign of harassment and terror against republican legislators. There are always stories in the news about high profile republicans being shouted at whilst trying to order dinner. That’s the kind of lack of civility that draws a direct line to mailing pipe bombs.
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For 18 months in 1971 and 1972 there were over 2,500 political bombings carried out by radical leftists in the U.S. That's almost five a day. Hardly an act or two.
But hey, let's allow these threats to whip up even more partisan fury. Because if people get even more angry and full of hate, if they recognize the Other Side are all truly evil and contemptible human beings, then... what?
I mean, what's the end game of stoking partisan rage? Walk my simple utilitarian mind through how it will make the U.S. a better place.
I know I’m not catching your point here, so forgive me, but history is littered with both sides doing terrible things. I’m not sure that when people say “both sides, many sides” sarcastically, they’re attempting to erase all of human history. I believe they’re talking about the false equivalencies of what is happening TODAY.
People excuse the Muslim violence by saying Christians has a violent history too, but in my experience, it’s pretty short sighted and really doesn’t address what’s going on today. I should know, i’ve done it myself. It’s dumb.
I’m not sure that when people say “both sides, many sides” sarcastically, they’re attempting to erase all of human history. I believe they’re talking about the false equivalencies of what is happening TODAY.
Wednesday’s shooting in Virginia that appeared to target Republican lawmakers highlights a trend that terrorism experts have been monitoring in recent months: the ramping up of violence committed by the left.
“This is something we’re very concerned about,” said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino. “The violence is not indigenous to just one side of the political spectrum. While other entities are farther along, this emergent hard left has coalesced.
“And we can’t just ignore it.”...
...Mark Pitcavage, a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism, described the shooting as “left-oriented terrorism.”
Pitcavage said he had conducted training sessions in Washington, D.C., last weekend for senior law enforcement executives from around the country. In addition to his regular presentations, he said, he spoke about the extremist movements that experts had been seeing in the post-Trump election environment.
“I warned that we’d seen increased activity from people on the left who are very angry about the Trump administration,” he said. “And I said, ‘There’s a real chance for increased violence coming from the left.’ But little did I know that my prediction would be confirmed so quickly and in such a shocking way.”
- Miami Herald
But hey, what do the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University-San Bernardino and a senior research fellow at the Anti-Defamation League’s Center on Extremism know about political violence? No doubt they're Republican sympathizers putting political spin on the issue.
There is more political violence carried out by the right today than the left. But the amount carried out by the left is increasing, and turning every incident into a partisan issue that whips up tribal hatred is only going to lead to more violence.
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I'm only really into it for the cheap endorphin hit that comes with having my bias confirmed, then it's off to new lands to conquer! #### you, other side!
Absolutely, and great point. So why not talk about this, an example of the severity of the issues “on both sides” TODAY, over 2500 bombings 50 years ago?
It clouds the issue, and doesn’t address what people are talking about.
LOL! It says a lot, Cliff, that you have now mentioned the same shooting twice in your bid to try and create a justification for this false equivalence.
Also, I love how you posted an article about how someone feels like left wing terrorism is a Very Big Problem as part of an appeal to authority play, right after Photon posted facts noting that right wing terrorism dwarfs all. But, we already know that for the Republican Right, feels > facts.
Is there more examples in recent history than that? That was one guy labeled as a left wing activist, surely that can't stand up as a counter point to everything on the right?
