2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by FlamesFanTrev

I'm way more interested in giving up my first next year for a goalie then a 19 year old rookie defensemen that doesn't look out of place in the NHL.

Me too. But you won't get Saros for Stone, Brodie, Hamonic or Kylington on their own and you don't want to give up Valimaki or Andersson. So pick(s) would absolutely need to be given up.

You'd then have to ask yourself if Nashville thinks its worth giving up their safety net in goal for a (hopefully for us) late 1st?

Probably not, but you get the idea.

[Otto-matic]

Valimaki is trending towards IMO untouchable unless its a impact player coming back.

[The Yen Man]

Considering they're pretty much grooming Saros to take over for Rinne, the probability of them trading him would be about as high as when the Pens trading away Matt Murray when they had him and Fleury. Which is pretty much zero unless you really overpay.

[Toonage]

Yeah, 100% you don't move Valimaki or Andersson.

The D pool is shallow, and they have way too much potential. Keep them, fish for a goalie in FA next summer. Just get on it early, be willing to spend picks if necessary and try to keep them under 35 years of age.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Toonage

The Flames aren't winding up with Saros from a GM like Poile by only sending out one of the aforementioned defensemen. Even with another team involved.

The Flames need to move out their 2019 1st for starters I would think.

In no way am I suggesting that one of those pieces gets the trade done.

[FlamesFanTrev]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Me too. But you won't get Saros for Stone, Brodie, Hamonic or Kylington on their own and you don't want to give up Valimaki or Andersson. So pick(s) would absolutely need to be given up.

You'd then have to ask yourself if Nashville thinks its worth giving up their safety net in goal for a (hopefully for us) late 1st?

Probably not, but you get the idea.

Yea, take Stone, Brodie or Kylington and a 1st. Or what about Rittich and a 1st? Nashvilles still gets a goalie with potential or pedigree, and a sweet little late 1st round kicker. Flames get Saros, avoid a waiver issue with Rittich to make room for the new goalie, and can ride Smith and Saros as 1A/1B. Next year, Smitty is gone and you have a Saros/Gilles 1A/1B, with Parsons playing top minutes in AHL.

Yes Please. And if thats not enough from the flames, there are a couple good F prospects that could help to balance it.

Edit: Also, I should note that I actually like Rittich, and I'm not convinced a huge move is necessary at this point.

[Mitch]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Yeah, 100% you don't move Valimaki or Andersson.

The D pool is shallow, and they have way too much potential. Keep them, fish for a goalie in FA next summer. Just get on it early, be willing to spend picks if necessary and try to keep them under 35 years of age.

Andersson is expendable if you can get Saros. Agreed on Valimaki though.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

First off, I don't think he will be traded. I am almost 100% sure he won't be traded this season.

For your first point, the Leafs actually have most of the leverage here. If Nylander want to play in the NHL the Leafs have his rights. They don't have to sign Nylander this season. This would hurt the Leafs but it would hurt Nylander even more. They can't cave into Nylander's demands because of next years RFAs.

Second point, so is that how you feel about Johnny too?

Third point, good players tend to play with good players. Pasternak is good. His linemates make him better, but I don't see anyone using that logic on Pasternak so why does it apply to Willy.

Point four, that's why I think it is very unlikely he gets traded unless the trade is fair value. There is no reason for the Leafs to give Nylander up at a discount.

A package around Bennett does not make sense for the Leafs. I know you guys still have high hopes for Bennett but I would think the rest of the league see what he is. Whenever I watch him play he reminds me of Connor Brown on the Leafs...A good player but nothing great.

No, the Leafs have the leverage between them and Nylander. However, with respect to trading Nylander to another team, no they do not have the leverage. If they trade him, it will have been a bit under the gun.

As for the Johnny comment, yes that is how I feel about Johnny, which is why I wouldn't want to see him traded. To be fair, Johnny is better, and a proven game breaker on his own. Also, Johnny's contract is better than what Nylander is likely to sign for. But nonetheless, Johnny, like Nylander, is a small, one-dimensional winger. So trading him for fair value would be a challenge.

[Toonage]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

In no way am I suggesting that one of those pieces gets the trade done.

I know. Didn't mean to suggest or infer that, just pointing out that those names would need additions.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

To Toronto: Ekholm + Valimaki
To Calgary: Saros
To Nashville: Nylander + Gillies

Contingent on Nashville getting Josi signed, but now the expansion draft has them not making tough decisions as they protect their top 3 and Rinne (if he is going to be signed long-term as speculated).

Toronto gets two cost controlled defenseman, one in his prime and one about to enter it.

Flames get their starting goaltender of the future.

Brutal for the Flames.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Brutal for the Flames.

Essentially a young legit starting goalie, for an up and coming bottom pairing Flames defencman and a goalie struggling in the AHL?
What was the rumoured cost to get MAF?

Hardly brutal for the Flames.

[Otto-matic]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Essentially a young legit starting goalie, for an up and coming bottom pairing Flames defencman and a goalie struggling in the AHL?
What was the rumoured cost to get MAF?

Hardly brutal for the Flames.

Brutal if Jusso takes his game to the next level and forces his way into the top pairing which I believe will happen.

[H2SO4(aq)]

Trade Brodie for Saros.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Essentially a young legit starting goalie, for an up and coming bottom pairing Flames defencman and a goalie struggling in the AHL?
What was the rumoured cost to get MAF?

Hardly brutal for the Flames.

You call Valimaki a bottom pair D then call Saros a starter?

Valimaki has likely as much or more potential to be a top pairing D than Saros does as becoming an elite starting goalie.

If Valimaki and Saros are the main pieces in a Flames-Preds trade that is brutal for the Flames

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

Trade Brodie for Saros.

Why would Nashville do that?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why would Nashville do that?

Obviously because they're short on defencemen.

[FlamesNation23]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Essentially a young legit starting goalie, for an up and coming bottom pairing Flames defencman and a goalie struggling in the AHL?
What was the rumoured cost to get MAF?

Hardly brutal for the Flames.

Lmao what have you seen from Vallimaki that suggests he would be a bottom pairing defenseman? Guy has played amazing as a rookie with no AHL experience. Horrible take

[GioforPM]

Maybe he meant he's currently bottom pair but is up and coming from that starting point?

[H2SO4(aq)]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Why would Nashville do that?

Brad asks nicely?

[The Yen Man]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Brutal for the Flames.

Honestly, I think it's more brutal for the Preds. They could probably get Nylander for cheaper than Ekholm and Saros. Again, I don't see why Nashville would even trade Saros in the first place.