Cannabis is legal

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I was chatting with someone today who said Canada didn't go far enough and should legalize all drugs.

he doesn't believe the majority of drugs of any type are dangerous if used responsibly, and would be much better for everyone if their contents were regulated. his examples were cocaine and synthetic drugs, specifically ecstasy and acid.

what do you think? is this just the start? what drug is next in the fight to be legalized?

Probably some natural stuff - mushrooms, mescaline, wormwood.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Wormius

Probably some natural stuff - mushrooms, mescaline, wormwood.

Wormwood is already legal. I buy it from the home brew shop all the time for mead.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by GordonBlue

I was chatting with someone today who said Canada didn't go far enough and should legalize all drugs.

he doesn't believe the majority of drugs of any type are dangerous if used responsibly, and would be much better for everyone if their contents were regulated. his examples were cocaine and synthetic drugs, specifically ecstasy and acid.

what do you think? is this just the start? what drug is next in the fight to be legalized?

It is an interesting debate. I think that this conversation could include drugs that can be domestically produced. Having to deal with illicit international trade would not be ideal.

A positive to government run "drug stores" would be that they could record information about who is using and target solutions in those communities. hard to say though.

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

Wormwood is already legal. I buy it from the home brew shop all the time for mead.

Really? Interesting. I thought it was illegal.

[MoneyGuy]

Brilliant marketing idea to take advantage of the cannabis rush.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/nine-y...d_app8cKuJeiG4

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

It’s all good. You can make it up to us pot heads by posting some pictures of delicious BBQ like you normally do.

Except I won't be able to call it a potluck dinner

[Dion]

Originally Posted by kermitology

You'd said you will never try it. What about for pain relief? There are different strains that have different effects. Why never?

You have a good point there regarding medicinal use. I hope I never get to that point but you're right, I should never have said never.

[RyZ]

I ordered a little bit off the AGLC website yesterday AM when I got in to work and the goods arrived today before I left. Nice to see a 1 day turn around, even during the busy kick off.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by RyZ

I ordered a little bit off the AGLC website yesterday AM when I got in to work and the goods arrived today before I left. Nice to see a 1 day turn around, even during the busy kick off.

Nice, my order was placed yesterday afternoon and just picked up in YEG and hopefully delivered soon by purolator.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by _Q_

Yeah legalize like 90% of drugs. I really don't care. Maybe keep things like heroine and bath salts illegal. At least the manufacture and distribution of them. Treat their use as a health issue rather than a criminal one.

Actually heroine would be one of the most important ones to legalize, curious as to why you left that one out? Dirty needles, laced heroine, addicts away from public services when using leads to an incredible amount of deaths.

That's probably the first one you should legalize. I know you're probably thinking the opposite "legalize them in order of how bad they are, the least bad first", but you want the stuff that kills the most people and costs the health care system the most money legal first.

It's a tough line of thinking to break as we've been conditioned to believe the opposite for so many decades.

[Makarov]

Originally Posted by RyZ

I ordered a little bit off the AGLC website yesterday AM when I got in to work and the goods arrived today before I left. Nice to see a 1 day turn around, even during the busy kick off.

That's impressive. I ordered from OCS yesterday morning and it hasn't even been processed or shipped yet.

[Cube Inmate]

I read all the info material on AGLC's site and they do a fantastic job of making this stuff sound boring. I thought I might try some to see what the fuss is all about, but now that the prohibition is off, I don't really care to.

Or maybe I'm just extra mellow tonight.

[Nage Waza]

The book Freakonomics dives right into the war on drugs. Basically, supply and demand are the root causes of drug dealing and gang violence. As long as police are hunting down the drugs, the supply decreases and the price increases. If they legalize heroine, lower prices and cleaner/better product become available in a store and will make it not worth the hassle or risk of being a drug dealer.

[MRCboicgy]

I had a thought about making sure each shop had a Donair place next door, forget the Thai/Vietnamese food. Imagine a your favourite donair and your favourite kush (is that what the kids call it?). Donair sounds like the perfect stoned meal
I'm surprised Jimmy's didn't apply for a license - they sell everything else you can smoke.

[FlamesAddiction]

As soon as the novelty wears off, stock won't be an issue at all. Right now people are just going nuts with it.

[Wormius]

In my travels, I haven’t observed any overt excitement over this. There were some guys on the bus who were pretty happy and saying they wanted to be part of history and hope that people around Canada can show the world how you can have legal marijuana and be really cool. Aside from that, it was mentioned as a casually during a staff meeting.

All other talk has just been from the media.

I don’t think harder drugs like heroin should be legalized. You might take a bite out of the criminal side of it, but everything I have seen is that it’s a highly addictive and soul sucking drug. I thinking making something that could run your life easy to obtain would be a mistake. Maybe decriminalize it, but don’t sell it at the retail level.

[GGG]

On harder drugs the question is why don’t you do heroin? If there is a group of people that the answer is because it’s illegal then legalization would increase use. However I’m not sure that group of people exists.

I think the bigger risk would be legalizing something like cocaine. People would use it recreationally at first because it’s legal and a percentage would become addicted and carry on into crack and heroine

[Wormius]

I feel like maybe curiosity would get some people to try harder drugs if they were legal. And are there hard drugs that can be used casually without becoming highly addictive to individuals who otherwise don’t have an addictive personality? Could the average person try heroin or meth and say, “well that was neat, but I don’t have an urge to do that again”? I think you’d have to balance that somehow. Making hard drugs legal probably won’t turn the addicts of East Van back into high functioning individuals. I don’t think it’s the illegality of hard drugs that has them on the streets. The advantage of legalization though would probably be to keep the users safer, and cut the red tape of safe injection sites and programs. I suppose there isn’t a lot known about legal hard drugs and whether it would somehow help to open up the market to everything.

[Dion]

‘A smart idea’: Edmonton nine-year-old finds eager buyers for Girl Guide cookies among cannabis crowd

When Elina got home from school Wednesday, she grabbed some change from her piggy bank. She and her dad loaded up a wagon with three cases of Girl Guide cookies and they walked a few blocks to the nearby cannabis store.

She started walking up and down the lineup.

“It was well received,” said Seann Childs.

Elina said people told her “it was a smart idea and that they’d like to buy some cookies.”

Her dad said some cars even stopped on the street to buy a box.

“It was really something else,” he said. “I’d never seen anything quite like that.”

Childs said he expected it to go well, but he never thought she would sell out of all the cookies they had left in the three cases — about 30 boxes — in 45 minutes.

A social media post on Elina outside the pot store went viral and Monahan said they started getting questions from other parents about whether it was allowed.

“Why wouldn’t it be?” she said. “It wasn’t like she was in the store — that would be a whole different ball game.

“I think it’s wonderful.”

To make it even better, Elina’s parents were able to use the experience as a teaching moment for their daughter.

“She actually has cystic fibrosis, so we encourage her to get out there and do things and be active,” Childs said. “Girl Guides is one part of that.”

“This was one day she could benefit from smoking,” said

Childs. “We saw that as an opportunity to get out there and teach her a little about what cannabis is.

“Obviously she’s not going to be using it before she’s 18, I hope, but we like to have frank discussions with her, so she understands what it is and take away that mystery behind it — just to show her people of all ages and all walks of life are doing this and it’s legal in Canada now, just demystify it for her so it’s not a big deal for her.”

https://calgaryherald.com/cannabis/e...b-47dfd809d1ef

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by jayswin

Actually heroine would be one of the most important ones to legalize, curious as to why you left that one out? Dirty needles, laced heroine, addicts away from public services when using leads to an incredible amount of deaths.

That's probably the first one you should legalize. I know you're probably thinking the opposite "legalize them in order of how bad they are, the least bad first", but you want the stuff that kills the most people and costs the health care system the most money legal first.

It's a tough line of thinking to break as we've been conditioned to believe the opposite for so many decades.

I'm not sure how I feel about legalizing everything.
but I do wonder about the lives that could be saved if people had drugs that were created in a controlled manner with the same amount of drug in each dose, and not having to worry what it's been laced or cut with.

maybe with greater openness and education there wouldn't be so many overdoes, either.
conversations worth having, anyway.