Oct 16 Practice Notes - Dube Maintenance Day. Smith starts tomorrow

[JJFlash]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
#Flames at practice today with Dube absent:

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Bennett-Jankowski-Neal
Hathaway-Ryan-Czarnik

Giordano-Brodie
Hanifin-Andersson
Valimaki-Stone

I prefer that a Janko and Bennett are split up but playing with Neal and Bennett will bring up Janko’s intensity.

[TheIronMaiden]

Everyone looks good with Backlund. I don't have a problem with Peters shuffling the lineup. Paul Byron is just as well getting moved down to stoke the fire under his ass. Frolik with Backlund makes sense from a special teams perspective, I don't like it when the team has to shuffle their lines to recover from a PK. Keeping Janko-Bennet and Frolik- Backlund together makes it so that the Flames have two intact lines after after a PK.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Jankowski isn't playing the wing. Stop trying to put him on the wing.

Jankowski has been healthy scratched four times in 2018. I don't see how putting him on the wing with good players is not a better option than having him flounder.

[ComixZone]

The lines make sense if you think about the fact it's a home game and Peters can send Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik out over the boards to go against Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak.

I want to see Bennett-Backlund-Neal, but when you're going up against that Boston trio, the goal has to be to neutralize them above all else - so the 3M line coming back out makes sense to me.

[SuperMatt18]

I don't mind Frolik going back to the 3M line to start.

If you are going to challenge a veteran by healthy scratching him you can't throw him back on the 4th line for 8 minutes and expect him to succeed.

Put him back on 3M and see if he can refind his groove.

[Fuzzy14]

The line-ups make sense if you think about the fact it's a home game and Peters can send Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik out over the boards to go against Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak.

I want to see Bennett-Backlund-Neal, but when you're going up against that Boston trio, the goal has to be to neutralize them above all else - so the 3M line coming back out makes sense to me.

This. Not unreasonable to expect different combinations for home games where last change will allow for more complete shutdown matchups.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

The line-ups make sense if you think about the fact it's a home game and Peters can send Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik out over the boards to go against Marchand-Bergeron-Pastrnak.

I want to see Bennett-Backlund-Neal, but when you're going up against that Boston trio, the goal has to be to neutralize them above all else - so the 3M line coming back out makes sense to me.

It will be an interesting line matching contest. Boston will be trying all night to get Bergeron against Monahan. Peters will be trying all night to have Backlund against Bergeron.

The winner might just be Bennett-Jankowski/Dube-Neal.

[dash_pinched]

Gonna need to stay out of the sinbin against Boston, Bruins PP has been lethal to start the season.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Gonna need to stay out of the sinbin against Boston, Bruins PP has been lethal to start the season.

Yes and no. Boston has a ridiculous powerplay percentage, but have drawn only 12 penalties through five games, which ranks them 30th in the NHL—one spot ahead of the Oilers (*snicker*). By way of comparison the Flames are far and away the League leader in penalties drawn with 25 in five games, and the Bruins are also the third most penalized team in the NHL. The special teams battle going into this game actually sets up quite nicely in the Flames favour if the averages hold.

[Matty81]

I'm not a big fan of Frolik but the line does make sense given the context. Ideally though I'd like to see Ryan and Frolik form the basis of a new shutdown line and Backlund and Tkachuk freed up for more offensive duties.

[sureLoss]

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Dillon Dube missed practice today for maintenance. Coach Peters says he hopes he’ll be ready for tomorrow. #Flames

Pat Steinberg @Fan960Steinberg
Dube is questionable for tomorrow. Still related to the shot he blocked last week in Nashville.

Mike Smith gets the start vs. Boston. #Flames

[sureLoss]

double

[Textcritic]

It's been said a bunch of times now over the past couple months, but this bears repeating: I LOVE what depth does for a team. The sort of line juggling that Peters is doing this season is something that really was not even an available option to Guilutzan's coaching staff. The Flames have a high number of players that can take on a variety of different roles in different situations, depending on the opponent and whether playing at home or on the road. It could be argued that Peters is here and now for the first time in his coaching career afforded the options to execute this plan effectively for the first time in his own coaching career. (While he blended his lines a lot in Carolina he never really had the quality of players that he does here to make it as effective as it can be.)

[sureLoss]

per Francis. Peters wouldn't commit to Frolik being on Backlund's line

[shotinthebacklund]

I have a feeling ryan is the man out tomorrow

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

per Francis. Peters wouldn't commit to Frolik being on Backlund's line

Well that settles it, Frolik is on the Backlund line.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

It's been said a bunch of times now over the past couple months, but this bears repeating: I LOVE what depth does for a team. The sort of line juggling that Peters is doing this season is something that really was not even an available option to Guilutzan's coaching staff.

I beg to differ. With some more, and more intelligent, line juggling, I believe there is no way Eatbread should have gone ten games without a point, Bennett fifteen games without a point, Jankowski an eleven game pointless streak, Backlund with eleven and eight game pointless streaks.

Gulutzan made that not an option himself by expecting lines to just get out of slumps themselves. Before him, Hartley was successfully juggling lines with guys like Bouma, Colborne, Jones, and Jooris and getting top ten in NHL type offensive results. Even Hunter Shinkaruk looked like he arrived under Hartley and Garnet Hathaway gave us a game where he drew eight penalties on the Sharks, I believe that never would have happened under Gully.

Gulutzan didn't have a stacked roster but he had at his disposal guys like Lazar, Brouwer, Jagr, Mangiapane, Shinkaruk, Foo, Shore, Stewart, Jankowski, Bennett, Ferland, Frolik, Backlund, Ferland and he had zero interest in any useful experimentation. His was a rigid style of coaching and it resulted in a team that didn't believe in themselves most of the time. Czarnik might not have played a minute on the PP or top nine for us yet and then we'd be wondering if it was a bad signing.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by shotinthebacklund

I have a feeling ryan is the man out tomorrow

I am guessing Hathaway takes a turn to sit since Ryan can at least win faceoffs.

[Toonage]

^ lol takes a turn to sit. He's played one game.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Gulutzan didn't have a stacked roster but he had at his disposal guys like Lazar, Brouwer, Jagr, Mangiapane, Shinkaruk, Foo, Shore, Stewart, Jankowski, Bennett, Ferland, Frolik, Backlund, Ferland and he had zero interest in any useful experimentation. His was a rigid style of coaching and it resulted in a team that didn't believe in themselves most of the time. Czarnik might not have played a minute on the PP or top nine for us yet and then we'd be wondering if it was a bad signing.

Well, it was fun, but I think finally an ignore list is warranted. I feel dumber having read this post.

Lazar, Stewart, shore, jagr, shinkaruk, foo are all out of the league, that's how good of options they were, so good they can't crack an NHL roster. Go ahead and put janko and frolik on there too because so far they've shown maybe they can't crack an NHL roster this year either.

Shinkaruk? Jesus, man. That's up there with kylington is as good as Theodore.

Anyway, it's been a slice, but I think things have finally drifted from funny to absurd.