Matheson does his best "WWE" slam on Pettersson - Update: 2 game suspension - Page 5 - Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

FireGilbert · 10-14-2018, 04:20 AM

It looked like 2 for roughing. I don't get the WWE comparisons or the need for a suspension.

Galakanokis · 10-14-2018, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaster86

He pins him and uses his stick for leverage and then used his full body weight to slam him.

I do agree with it being two minutes though. I suspect he gets fined because it was missed and because it led to an injury.

Sorry, disagree with this completely. He does with his stick what 90% of defenders do with it when they go into the boards like that. He uses his arm to toss him aside with a little extra push as he realizes how easily he is going down. Stupid play but nothing more than that.

As for the canucks not defending I think the play had turned up ice and nobody saw. Even Matheson had his turned and wasn't watching what Pettersson was doing.

Snuffleupagus · 10-14-2018, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by FireGilbert

It looked like 2 for roughing. I don't get the WWE comparisons or the need for a suspension.

Agreed, Pettersson is a nice talent but until he either fills out his little boys frame or learns to be slippery he's going to get punished

Deegee · 10-14-2018, 07:02 AM

I hate the Canucks.

I also know it's important the league protects it's stars, and kid is going to be a big one. I actually something I think warrants a suspension. Likely none because of no injury, but the intent is there.

Saqe · 10-14-2018, 07:17 AM

I don't understand hockey anymore if this is a suspension.

d_phaneuf · 10-14-2018, 07:26 AM

Not a hockey play after the initial contact at all, matheson was clearly embarrassed after getting made to look silly

The hit at first is fine, but when he has his legs pressed up against the boards, petterasson has no control of his weight and then with the puck nowhere near (watch the goalies eyes tracking the puck, its on the other side of the ice) he slams him down

The 2nd part is complete garbage and should be a suspension, its not a hockey play at that point

metroneck · 10-14-2018, 07:53 AM

Regardless of my thoughts on the hit, I think I’m going to have to avoid Vancouver radio for a while...

Hockey · 10-14-2018, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by d_phaneuf

Not a hockey play after the initial contact at all, matheson was clearly embarrassed after getting made to look silly

The hit at first is fine, but when he has his legs pressed up against the boards, petterasson has no control of his weight and then with the puck nowhere near (watch the goalies eyes tracking the puck, its on the other side of the ice) he slams him down

The 2nd part is complete garbage and should be a suspension, its not a hockey play at that point

This is exactly it. Matheson didn't like getting embarrassed by Pettersson and was clearly frustrated by that. I get if Matheson wants to just lay a big hit to send a message that he will have to pay the price, but the slam down is just garbage.

Resolute 14 · 10-14-2018, 08:02 AM

A rough ride, definitely, but not near as malicious as certain people want to believe. That should have been a roughing minor. Nothing more.

I do love the "BuT wHaT iF iT wAs JoHnNy???????" argument though. It's always fun when people try to demonstrate their superiority by preemptively arguing that anyone who would dare to disagree with them must be a hypocrite. And for the record, it still would have been a roughing minor, nothing more, if Gaudreau was on the receiving end of that.

CaptainCrunch · 10-14-2018, 08:06 AM

If it was anyone but Pettersson its a 2 minute penalty at worst. Because its on a young kid that looks like an awesome player, its omg bring out the hang man's noose and give him 20 games.

I don't see it as anywhere near suspension worthy. The slashes on Johnny's hands for example were far worse and there were no suspensions there.

EldrickOnIce · 10-14-2018, 08:06 AM

I don't know what to say to anyone who watches the head slammed to the ice and sees a hockey play.

This is one you hope officials take care of on ice.
They didn't.

Trailer Fire · 10-14-2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Saqe

I don't understand hockey anymore if this is a suspension.

I'm not sure you understood hockey before.

Erick Estrada · 10-14-2018, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I don't know what to say to anyone who watches the head slammed to the ice and sees a hockey play.

This is one you hope officials take care of on ice.
They didn't.

You need to watch the play over. He doesn't slam his head on the ice as Petterson's head was at shoulder height when he puts him down. He just slams a slight player and the unfortunate part is that his head hits the ice on the way down. There's no doubt he took liberties with him but if Petterson doesn't get rattled we aren't even talking about this play today.

I hope it's just a minor setback but we are probably going to see more big players take liberties with this kid and I hope his body is up to it.

Buff · 10-14-2018, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Saqe

I don't understand hockey anymore if this is a suspension.

I don't understand humanity if people think that slam was fine.

devo22 · 10-14-2018, 08:54 AM

didn't like the throw-down at all. If it was Gaudreau in that situation, people would call for Mathesons head. Don't think it necessariy warrants a suspension, but let's not pretend that this wasn't a frustrated player who had been embarrassed by a young skilled player.

That said, Pettersson will have to put on quite a bit of weight ASAP. Kid looks like a bean pole out there and teams will target him.

Lanny_McDonald · 10-14-2018, 09:02 AM

This was a non-event. Petterson needs to put some weight on and get stronger in his skates so he doesn’t get rag dolled like that. This is the NHL and defense,en are going to take liberties like that. It happens every game, multiple times, at both ends of the ice. Nothing event.

Flames Draft Watcher · 10-14-2018, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

I don't know what to say to anyone who watches the head slammed to the ice and sees a hockey play.

This is one you hope officials take care of on ice.
They didn't.

I watched it several times and saw no head slam to ice. Petterson loses his balance, gets thrown down onto his shoulder. If his head slams the ice it’s from the force of the fall. Unlucky for him or perhaps he needs to work on some neck muscle strength so that he doesn’t get whiplash on every big hit.

PeteMoss · 10-14-2018, 09:03 AM

Agree with the consensus here. Its a penalty but not a suspension. Tough that Petterson got hurt as the guy is clearly very good. Doesn't seem like his head hit the ice so hopefully it was just pre-cautionairy to keep him out the rest of the game after that wobble getting up.

Point Blank · 10-14-2018, 09:13 AM

Sounds a lot like victim blaming from a few of you. Just because a person is small doesn’t mean he should be manhandled like that. The problem here is that Matheson looked like he slammed Petterson with the intent to injure, and whether it’s a small person who can be slammed like that or not, whether he’s a star in the league or not that’s not okay.

It’s unfortunate to me that there’s a “they’ll take liberties and that’s just the way it is” attitude. I don’t think shrugging things off like that is a good approach holding players accountable for their actions, whether it caused an injury or not.

Flames Draft Watcher · 10-14-2018, 09:26 AM

Pushing guys to the ice is not against the rules. If you don’t want to be pushed to the ice so hard you’re gonna need to bulk up. I don’t really see a victim of any crime here. First time I saw the replay I thought the outrage was unwarranted.

Interesting people see the play so differently.