Cannabis is legal

[Kiran403]

There are signs at the airport now stating that you can bring up to 30g on a domestic flight which is nice. Getting high before a flight was always easy but being able to travel with it within Canada will be sweet.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Kiran403

There are signs at the airport now stating that you can bring up to 30g on a domestic flight which is nice. Getting high before a flight was always easy but being able to travel with it within Canada will be sweet.

Getting high has always been easy but i wouldn't want to pass through security reeking like weed or with my eyes all red without it being legal. I know we've been pretty lax for a while now but there's something comforting about knowing that you have absolutely nothing to worry about.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Sliver

It's not insane at all. Insane is $3.50. In the mid-90s it was $15 and that was fine. $12 - $15 is perfectly affordable for most people, anyway. I like supporting local stores where people are earning an honest living, paying their taxes and contributing to society.

Terry will kick around for a couple years, but not beyond that in any meaningful way.

IDGAF about Terry, anyway. The best part of legalization is not having to worry about a possession or trafficking charge for doing something that shouldn't be "wrong" in the first place.

You're completely nuts.

The black market wont just up and disappear because Superstore opened a dispensary.

Weed is far far to easy to cultivate and make money on for those who do it now to just fold up shop and move on.

People will always buy where its cheapest...and Terry will be miles cheaper than any government run operations.

[Hemi-Cuda]

What's going to happen with the drug dogs that they use now though? Are they going to have to train them to ignore the smell of weed?

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by transplant99

You're completely nuts.

The black market wont just up and disappear because Superstore opened a dispensary.

Weed is far far to easy to cultivate and make money on for those who do it now to just fold up shop and move on.

People will always buy where its cheapest...and Terry will be miles cheaper than any government run operations.

Maybe at certain socio-economic levels. I can't imagine anyone I know at 40 years old leaving their suit-and-tie job to snarf around a duplex in Temple waiting for Terry to get home from his Slurpee run so they can buy some weed. They'll all go to the store like civilized people.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Hey, does anyone have any idea how this will affect the current black market?

Just asking for a buddy.
His name is Terry.

I know it's a tricky thing to say for certain, but baring any sort of concrete reasoning, I'm willing to accept a strong opinion based on gut feelings.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by transplant99

You're completely nuts.

The black market wont just up and disappear because Superstore opened a dispensary.

Weed is far far to easy to cultivate and make money on for those who do it now to just fold up shop and move on.

People will always buy where its cheapest...and Terry will be miles cheaper than any government run operations.

Actually I think it will. And no, people will not always choose the cheapest. Not when it is also the worst option by a country mile.

I know a lot of weed smokers and for the last year or two people who buy from some random dealer in a parking lot already get shunned and laughed at. Join the 21st century already and get some proper weed. Terry's weed (generally) sucks and he's a PIA to deal with.

I'd say $10/gram has been the standard as long as I've been buying weed. $30 for an 1/8th, $60 for 1/4 etc. As long as the government is even in the same ball park as those prices, the black market is going to crumble and fast.

Convenience, selection, quality etc are all going to push the black market further and further. Their only option will be to undercut the LPs by such a wide margin so as to become an attractive option again. But then they lose their profit margins. Nobody is going to stay in the drug dealing business if they can't make a buck. Black market wouldn't just have to undercut LPs, they'd have to beat them by a wide margin.

The other issue is that I don't buy ounces, and a lot of other people don't either. I'll buy a couple grams, maybe an 1/8th, tops. So it doesn't matter if I'm paying $50 vs Terry's $30, I don't really care. That's not cheap enough to make me want to buy his crappy weed when I can walk to a dispensary whenever I want and choose from a variety of strains (and soon edibles etc).

If I was buying ounces, Terry would have to crush LP prices. If it is $250 (let's say) for an LP ounce, Terry would have to charge at least as low as $150 for me to even consider him an option. If he's only saving me $50, I couldn't give a crap. And at $150 an ounce, his profit margins are getting crushed.

[Parallex]

Yeah, I think transplant is way underestimating how much market share Terry is going to lose.

[Locke]

You guys are all being insensitive jerks!

Cant you see that this is just another incident of Big Government just plowing over small independent business men and women?

These are people with feelings and hopes and dreams and families to support and suppliers to pay!

Just mocking the imminent loss of their livelihoods is incredibly harsh.

For shame....for shame!

[Robo]

Just a quick question I have pretty bad anxiety in the mornings I dont like taking actual medication because I feel it does more harm than good. I dont really have any desire to actually smoke the stuff but I'm curious about the oil and the fact that they will have different strains for it specifically for anxiety will these be available too when the market opens up? or will it be a while before the Oil hits the shelves

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

What's going to happen with the drug dogs that they use now though? Are they going to have to train them to ignore the smell of weed?

Some of them are out of a job now because they really cannot be retrained to ignore pot.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...tire-1.4759428

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I was actually just chatting with some friends about legalization and we were all a little bit excited at the prospect of getting rip roaring stoned and then getting on a flight. I've never flown high.

I am not a user so might be way off base here, but I would assume if an airline can deny boarding due to alcohol intoxication they could also deny boarding to someone who is 'rip roaring stoned' if it was obvious?

[aaronck]

Originally Posted by Robo

Just a quick question I have pretty bad anxiety in the mornings I dont like taking actual medication because I feel it does more harm than good. I dont really have any desire to actually smoke the stuff but I'm curious about the oil and the fact that they will have different strains for it specifically for anxiety will these be available too when the market opens up? or will it be a while before the Oil hits the shelves

Oils and edibles from what I understand will not be rolled out opening day in stores or retail locations, but you can still get a medical card and order straight CBD oil or high CBD/ low THC oil from an LP to see if it helps.

[GP_Matt]

Originally Posted by Kiran403

There are signs at the airport now stating that you can bring up to 30g on a domestic flight which is nice. Getting high before a flight was always easy but being able to travel with it within Canada will be sweet.

I wonder what happens if a flight gets diverted to the US. Do they search everyone and arrest people?

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by Robo

Just a quick question I have pretty bad anxiety in the mornings I dont like taking actual medication because I feel it does more harm than good. I dont really have any desire to actually smoke the stuff but I'm curious about the oil and the fact that they will have different strains for it specifically for anxiety will these be available too when the market opens up? or will it be a while before the Oil hits the shelves

CBD oil is available now. I have some CBD lotion that I use for sore muscles and it works wonders. The oil you just put a drop under your tongue. No THC.

[CliffFletcher]

Pot (like alcohol) is a 20/80 business. 20 per cent of users are responsible for 80 per cent of consumption. Of course your 42 year old occasional smoker will go the legal retail route. But together all those casuals only account for 20 per cent of sales. While heavy users already have ready access to pot, or else they wouldn't be heavy users.

The grey market will no longer be an option - the police are shutting those operations down.. There's too much invested in legal (and tax-paying) businesses that have jumped through all the licensing hoops to allow illegal (but previously tolerated) operations to undercut them.

So the choices will be brick and mortar retail or black market.

The black market will still be used by:

* Heavy users who are price-sensitive.

* Users who are under 21/18.

* Those who won't have a legal store in their community, whether it's a small rural community or one of the larger municipalities that won't allow cannabis sales.

The experts - the legal and economic wonks who study this stuff - all say the black market in Canada isn't going anywhere. It will always be cheaper than the legal stuff, and it will continue to be more convenient for many users: the Terrys of today offer home delivery faster than you can get a pizza, while the whole of Ontario will still only have 150 stores by the end of 2020. I'd wager five years from now, at least a third of the week smoked in Canada will still be sold by Terrys.

[TheAlpineOracle]

As someone who is a mild smoker (couple times a month), i can’t see the black market for pot sticking around. I’d pay double to get it from a legitimate source that I know won’t be laced with some other agent. It’s wont even be double anyways. What will it be 15-20 bucks a gram versus 10-12 on the street? The black market is probably only a quarter what it was now anyways. Anyone who is a heavy pot user already has a prescription and gets it legally.

I don’t even buy weed anymore. My friends all have ridiculous prescriptions
that no normal human coulld possibly smoke in a month and they just feed me some of their excess.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Parallex

Yeah, I think transplant is way underestimating how much market share Terry is going to lose.

They are for sure going to take a hit. I just don’t believe it will be as much as I hoped it would be.

I’m less interested in paying low prices personally, and more interested in removing the easiest income the black market has ever seen.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Pot (like alcohol) is a 20/80 business. 20 per cent of users are responsible for 80 per cent of consumption. Of course your 42 year old occasional smoker will go the legal retail route. But together all those casuals only account for 20 per cent of sales. While heavy users already have ready access to pot, or else they wouldn't be heavy users.

The grey market will no longer be an option - the police are shutting those operations down.. There's too much invested in legal (and tax-paying) businesses that have jumped through all the licensing hoops to allow illegal (but previously tolerated) operations to undercut them.

So the choices will be brick and mortar retail or black market.

The black market will still be used by:

* Heavy users who are price-sensitive.

* Users who are under 21/18.

* Those who won't have a legal store in their community, whether it's a small rural community or one of the larger municipalities that won't allow cannabis sales.

The experts - the legal and economic wonks who study this stuff - all say the black market in Canada isn't going anywhere. It will always be cheaper than the legal stuff, and it will continue to be more convenient for many users: the Terrys of today offer home delivery faster than you can get a pizza, while the whole of Ontario will still only have 150 stores by the end of 2020. I'd wager five years from now, at least a third of the week smoked in Canada will still be sold by Terrys.

Just like it is today with booze.
All those 17 year olds filling up the speak-easys and keeping their local moon-shiners in business.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

You’re comparing sticking a seed in dirt to grow a weed (suuuuppper easy) to distilling alcohol (one of the most dangerous things you can do in your home).

K, well I could grow my own carrots by throwing a few seeds in the ground, too, but I think I'll stick with Safeway.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Sliver

K, well I could grow my own carrots by throwing a few seeds in the ground, too, but I think I'll stick with Safeway.

Because they are like $2 for a bag.

I’m mostly in agreement with your argument. But your analogies aren’t close to being comparable.