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GreenLantern2814 · 10-02-2018, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Zulu29

The window is now open. We’ve gotta have reliable goaltending to have a true shot at being a legit contender.

The window has just opened. Every meaningful forward is under contract for at least four years except Tkachuk, and he's a matter of time.

They'll get a goalie. They should make the playoffs and make some noise when they're there, but this is San Jose's year - they have 07 Ducks written all over them.

kukkudo · 10-02-2018, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

The window has just opened. Every meaningful forward is under contract for at least four years except Tkachuk, and he's a matter of time.

They'll get a goalie. They should make the playoffs and make some noise when they're there, but this is San Jose's year - they have 07 Ducks written all over them.

If the Flames and Sharks somehow met in the first round Im going Flames in 6 or 7.

Mattman · 10-02-2018, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Man, some of you are really impatient with waiting for one of Gillies or Parsons to take the reins.

It's pretty ridiculous to be honest.

Gilles and Parsons have potential for sure, possibly could be the future of this team.
But this is a team that has incredible potential and is looking like a team hungry to win RIGHT NOW.

Why wait 3 more years and let the good value contracts burn up?

Plus having an excess of forward and defence, depth and prospects makes a blockbuster trade seem realistic.

You have your core pieces to this team, but in the mean time you still have players like Bennett, Jankowski, Frolik, Andersson, Kylington, Klimchuck, Gillies, etc. being pushed down the line up when they all still have proven value or potential to be better with more ice time.

Let's say Columbus is sitting 12th in the East come Christmas time. I could see a trade similar to the Karlsson trade in terms of value.

A big package of picks and B level prospects/players
or
A couple higher end players/picks

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 12:45 PM

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Maple Leafs ‘leak’ leads to Carrick trade
Kevin McGran: When the Toronto Maple Leafs said yesterday that they were going to put defenseman Connor Carrick on waivers 90 minutes before the deadline, they received over 30 phone calls or text messages. A last-minute trade was worked out with the Dallas Stars for a conditional seventh-round pick, which was better than nothing.

https://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-new...ls/2018/10/02/

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 12:50 PM

Some older news but still interesting...

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The latest trade rumour could have the Montreal Canadiens and Calgary Flames coming together to find new homes for Max Pacioretty and T.J. Brodie.
This isn’t the first time the Montreal Canadiens, Calgary Flames and the words ‘trade rumours’ have all been used together in the same sentence. Earlier in the season, there was a belief that Pacioretty could be making his way west in exchange for one of Mark Jankowski, Sam Bennett, or both.

https://awinninghabit.com/2018/04/14...algary-flames/

PepsiFree · 10-02-2018, 12:56 PM

Glad the Pacioretty one didn’t happen

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 02:09 PM

So, perhaps Lazar was the other player in that 6 player trade that never went down with Montreal this past Summer.

Kulak
Shinkaruk
?????

For

Rychel
Taormina
Valiev

As we see here, where there is smoke there's fire, this trade did eventually happen but with the help of waivers... interesting to note those names that were apparently involved in those past trade discussions... Bennett, Jankowski & Brodie.

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 07:10 PM

How about this,

Bennett & Stone for Nylander? or Jankowski & Brodie for Nylander?

Works salary wise too!

This also allows the Flames to get Andersson into the line-up and keeps four scoring lines up-front intact.

So, our line-up would then look like,

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Neal
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Jankowski - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Andersson

Or

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Neal
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Stone

Jiri Hrdina · 10-02-2018, 07:12 PM

^Yes but why would the Leafs do that?

kukkudo · 10-02-2018, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

How about this,

Bennett & Stone for Nylander? or Jankowski & Brodie for Nylander?

Works salary wise too!

This also allows the Flames to get Andersson into the line-up and keeps four scoring lines upfront intact.

So, our line-up would then look like,

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Neal
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Jankowski - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Brodie
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Andersson

Or

Gaudreau - Monahan - Nylander
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Neal
Dube - Backlund - Frolik
Bennett - Ryan - Czarnik

Giordano - Andersson
Hanifin - Hamonic
Valimaki - Stone

How does that work salary wise? Just give it up the roster you see that was set today is the 2018/2019 Flames.

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

^Yes but why would the Leafs do that?

Yeah, these offers are a bit of a under bid for sure, maybe the deal would be all three of Bennett, Jankowski & Brodie for Nylander + ?

This would then open a roster spot for Mangiapane.

jayswin · 10-02-2018, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DoubleK

No question that players have an expiry date, and having to deal with the cap exacerbates how long you can keep your 'core' together.

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Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

That’s a window.

This was just awesome, thanks.

dammage79 · 10-02-2018, 07:20 PM

Nylanders either going to stay a Leaf or he's going to a team with surplus top 4 D men.

And I think the Nylander ship sailed when we got Lindholm. And I like what we got more for a number of reasons.

Captaincanada80 · 10-02-2018, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

How about this,

Bennett & Stone for Nylander? or Jankowski & Brodie for Nylander?

Works salary wise too!

How do you know this will work when Nylander is still a RFA and rumoured to be asking 8M?

Samonadreau · 10-02-2018, 07:48 PM

I think Nylander got a little to big for his britches here and its going to backfire. Kind of serves him right. Hes a small one dimensional 60 point winger (winger on the Leafs). Nothing wrong with that, but thats gonna get you closer to 6M or less and with th Leafs current fire power if the they hit the ground running hes going to be sitting for a while unless he caves or is dealt.

Vinny01 · 10-02-2018, 07:49 PM

Flames simply couldn’t afford to sign Nylander.

If I am the Leafs I wouldn’t move him for anything other than a top 4 RHD with several years of team control

djsFlames · 10-02-2018, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

Flames simply couldn’t afford to sign Nylander.

If I am the Leafs I wouldn’t move him for anything other than a top 4 RHD with several years of team control

Trade them Hamonic + Bennett

Call up Rasmus?

David Struch · 10-02-2018, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinny01

If I am the Leafs I wouldn’t move him for anything other than a top 4 RHD with several years of team control

The Flames appear to have struck gold not once (Välimäki) but twice, (Andersson) possibly even three (Kylington) or four times (Valiev) with young defenseman who look about ready to play in the NHL for them this season. Calgary obviously does have a surplus of D Men and something else is about to give.

I think Brodie could be that top pairing RD for the Leafs, if he promises to re-sign with them after his current deal.

I would even consider Nylander for Giordano straight up.

I would rank Nylander's contract priority and his position in the core as 5th, after Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, and Hanifin.

Jiri Hrdina · 10-02-2018, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by David Struch

The Flames appear to have struck gold not once (Välimäki) but twice, (Andersson) possibly even three (Kylington) or four times (Valiev) with young defenseman who look about ready to play in the NHL for them this season. Calgary obviously does have a surplus of D Men and something else is about to give.

I think Brodie could be that top pairing RD for the Leafs, if he promises to re-sign with them after his current deal.

I would even consider Nylander for Giordano straight up.

I would rank Nylander's contract priority and his position in the core as 5th, after Gaudreau, Monahan, Tkachuk, and Hanifin.

I don't see the fit
Brodie for Nylander makes zero sense from the Leafs POV. YOu may want to think he could be a top pairing D for them but he hasn't shown that to this point and has similar flaws to another guy they have (Gardiner)

They probably also wouldn't do Gio for Nylander given the relative ages, but ironically that deal would probably also make the Flames worse, at least for now.
The bottom line is that the Flames don't really need Nylander, to the point that they would pay the necessary price.

djsFlames · 10-02-2018, 08:32 PM

Flames are realistically a Nylander-like piece and a good starter capable of 60+ games away from being able to legitimately compete, given the glut of emerging talent on the blue line. So I get the draw to try and dangle something here.

That said someone like Nylander may not be necessary if Lindholm takes a step forward and becomes a 60+ first line player.