10-01-2018, 09:36 AM
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#41
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
I don't think that's true. In one transaction, the original team can claim the player back (having first dibs). But to send the player down, they'd still have to clear waivers so every team had a chance to claim him.
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I’m pretty sure if they claim him back they can send him to minors freely
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10-01-2018, 09:37 AM
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#42
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burnitdown
I don't think that's true. In one transaction, the original team can claim the player back (having first dibs). But to send the player down, they'd still have to clear waivers so every team had a chance to claim him.
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it was definitely the case with Boychuk back then. Maybe they've changed it, but I don't think so.
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10-01-2018, 09:43 AM
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#43
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Help, save, whatever.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poe969
Picard is a decent option imo. I wanted Sparks though...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Picard is a lateral move. Unless there is a clear upgrade I don't see the value in acquiring another goalie on waivers. McElhinney may be that, but the Flames would set themselves in a position of having too many goalies.
I think the most pragmatic thing to do is to start the season with what's in camp, and to trade for a goalie if necessary after actually seeing Flames goalies in game action.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Split98
Picard would be a smart pickup for us
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10-01-2018, 09:48 AM
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#44
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In the Sin Bin
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
I’m pretty sure if they claim him back they can send him to minors freely
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Only if no other team put in a claim.
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10-01-2018, 10:01 AM
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#45
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Hmm Canucks have waived Sam Gagner?
Yup confirmed.
Dale Weise also on waivers
Last edited by sureLoss; 10-01-2018 at 10:04 AM.
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10-01-2018, 10:07 AM
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#46
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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It's currently being discussed on Vancouver's TSN 1040.
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10-01-2018, 10:08 AM
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#47
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Doesn't sound like any Flames were put on waivers today.
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10-01-2018, 10:10 AM
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#48
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First Line Centre
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Sam Gagner!
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10-01-2018, 10:11 AM
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#49
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Doesn't sound like any Flames were put on waivers today.
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Guess that means at least one of the young waiver eligible guys is going down (Dube/Mangiapane/Valimaki/Andersson).
And most likely Andersson since I doubt they run with 3 RH d-men in the bottom 3 (Prout, Andersson, Stone).
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10-01-2018, 10:12 AM
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#50
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sureLoss
Hmm Canucks have waived Sam Gagner?
Yup confirmed.
Dale Weise also on waivers
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Surely he can make *that* team... has he fallen so far?
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10-01-2018, 10:13 AM
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#51
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Even if the plan is start the season with Rittich in Calgary, I wouldn't be surprised to see him on waivers today. With the two Leafs goalies on there, plus a few other teams will also likely need to clear 3rd stringers, it's very likely he'd clear. Waiving him would buy some flexibility if he struggles and Gilles has a strong start in Stockton.
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But if he did get claimed, they'd be hooped.
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10-01-2018, 10:14 AM
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#52
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Sounds like Carrick may have been traded.
Chris Johnston @reporterchris
Hearing that Connor Carrick wasn't actually placed on waivers today after #leafs announced at 10:30 a.m. he would be. Standby...
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10-01-2018, 10:16 AM
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#53
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the2bears
Surely he can make *that* team... has he fallen so far?
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I don't think Sam Gagner is any good, but I wonder if part of this decision is predicated on pressure to start graduating a steady stream of prospects to the NHL in Vancouver. Gagner is probably legitimately a top-12 player on the Canucks roster, but it may be more important for them to be giving more NHL t8ime to the likes of Goldobin, Gaudette, Dahlen, etc. (I'm pretty sure I have butchered the spelling of each one of those names.)
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10-01-2018, 10:21 AM
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#54
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Guess that means at least one of the young waiver eligible guys is going down (Dube/Mangiapane/Valimaki/Andersson).
And most likely Andersson since I doubt they run with 3 RH d-men in the bottom 3 (Prout, Andersson, Stone).
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With no waivers, Gillies goes down and one of Andersson or Valimaki I suspect for 14F + 7D + 2G.
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10-01-2018, 10:24 AM
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#55
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
With no waivers, Gillies goes down and one of Andersson or Valimaki I suspect for 14F + 7D + 2G.
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or a trade
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10-01-2018, 10:24 AM
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#56
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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OP updated with waivers list. No Flames.
Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
now
Waivers:
CURTIS MCELHINNEY
TOR
CALVIN PICKARD
TOR
RYAN MURPHY
MIN
DALE WEISE
PHI
TAYLOR LEIER
PHI
TOM KUHNHACKL
NYI
DANIEL CARR
VGK
CURTIS MCKENZIE
VGK
REMI ELIE
DAL
JOEL HANLEY
DAL
JUSTIN DOWLING
DAL
DAVID WARSOFSKY
COL
MARK ALT
COL
ALEXANDER BROADHURST
CBJ
ROCCO GRIMALDI
NSH
Renaud Lavoie @renlavoietva
Waivers 2/2
SAM GAGNER
VAN
DARREN ARCHIBALD
VAN
AARON NESS
WSH
ANTOINE BIBEAU
S.J
TREVOR MURPHY
ARI
DMITRIJ JASKIN
STL
CHRIS THORBURN
STL
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10-01-2018, 10:30 AM
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#57
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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I find it a little nuts that Gagner is on waivers. That Vancouver team is extremely low on skill. As bad as Gagner may be in other areas, he is still skilled and can put up some points now and then, especially on the power play 2nd unit.
I mean, I guess Travis is working on building a better culture of work ethic a la Hartley and co., but it still seems like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
As for the backups, I'm far from convinced that Pickard is an upgrade. McElhinney is probably a much more reliable option, but I still think both Rittich and Gillies have strong potential. Maybe I'm wrong about that, but making a claim on one of the Toronto goalies would affect our asset management. You have to be wiling to lose Rittich on waivers if you make a claim. You'd have to be certain that the goalie you claim is a clear upgrade. I find it hard to be that certain.
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10-01-2018, 10:30 AM
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#58
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Maple Bay, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Struch
Sam Gagner!
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10-01-2018, 10:30 AM
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#59
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Man, the doubleposting problems on this site are becoming all too common.
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10-01-2018, 10:33 AM
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#60
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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I hope the Flames don't claim McElhinney only because I hate typing McElhinney.
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