I think Valimaki vs Andersson. Prout vs Kulak as the final cut.
Makes a lot of sense. I know a lot of fans, including myself, would rather see both Andersson and Valimaki stick but realistically that probably doesn't happen.
Not to worry, we're one injury from seeing them both with the big club, and it's just a matter of time before we see them both full time. Either could handle bottom pairing minutes right now in my opinion
Long term asset management and protecting depth says both young defensemen down.
But. If they want to win in their window they may go a different route and promote one of each young dmen and forward to a) make their team better later this year once they get established and b) next year and onwards through the window.
I don't think that's true. You just have to put them on waivers again. Players have been waived and claimed several times over a season.
What you can't do is claim them and trade them.
Yeah, the rules don't require a team to keep a claimed player in the NHL, but if they want to keep that player's rights, they do. So, for all intents and purposes, if you put in a waiver claim, it should be with the expectation that the player will remain on your NHL team for the full season.
The only exception would be if one of a team's goalies has been injured and the team claims another goalie off waivers to cover for the injured goalie until he returns, with the intention of waiving the claimed goalie once the injured goalie returns.
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You can trade him but his rights have to first be offered to the other team(s) that put in a claim for him. If they pass on him you can then trade him.
From the CBA PDF:
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(b) A Player who has been acquired by Waiver claim shall not be Traded to another Club until the termination of Playoffs of the season in which he was acquired unless he is first offered on the same terms to the Club(s) that entered a claim when Waivers were requested originally and the offer has been refused.
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Haven't had a chance to watch much pre-season. Does Valimaki really look NHL-ready? That would be great.
I don't think he's ready but for his age and experience level he's impressively close.
Due to that and the aforementioned contract slide situation I am sure he gets sent down and plays less than 10 NHL games this year. But he's going to play a lot in the AHL and seems like he will be on the team next year.
I think Andersson is more ready. And Kylington has moved another step closer. With Prout as insurance I think Treliving needs to look at moving one of Kulak or Stone this year for whatever assets he can get. Maybe around the 20 game mark when he can assess how Andersson is handling the big time and if there are any injury concerns. Probably closer to the trade deadline. Unless of course we are looking like a top contender then you need everybody or you end up in a Brennan Evans situation.
Next year our 7 may well be Gio-Brodie-Hamonic-Hanifin-Andersson-Valimaki-Kylington.
I think Valimaki does look like he could handle the NHL right now. However, there are 2 reasons, IMO, why it doesn't make sense:
1) While not everyone needs AHL time to develop, defensemen can almost certainly benefit from it. As a 21 year old (will be next week) with no pro games under his belt, playing all situations, and learning how to be a pro, will benefit him.
2) There are plenty of other options. He looks great. But he isn't better than Andersson or Prout or Kulak. To stay at his age, he needs to be clearly better, where we say the team is better off with him in the lineup. And I just don't think you can say that yet.
The AHL will actually help Vlaimaki. And we don't need him yet. So no point in forcing things.
Conversely, Dube improves the lineup. And he could play wing without being a negative to him or the team, which would allow him to learn the pro game on the fly.
I don't think he's ready but for his age and experience level he's impressively close.
Due to that and the aforementioned contract slide situation I am sure he gets sent down and plays less than 10 NHL games this year. But he's going to play a lot in the AHL and seems like he will be on the team next year.
I think Andersson is more ready. And Kylington has moved another step closer. With Prout as insurance I think Treliving needs to look at moving one of Kulak or Stone this year for whatever assets he can get. Maybe around the 20 game mark when he can assess how Andersson is handling the big time and if there are any injury concerns. Probably closer to the trade deadline. Unless of course we are looking like a top contender then you need everybody or you end up in a Brennan Evans situation.
Next year our 7 may well be Gio-Brodie-Hamonic-Hanifin-Andersson-Valimaki-Kylington.
I like it.
Leafs are contenders in the East, but the right side of their D is highly suspect. Frolik, Stone, Rittich, and a 1st for Nylander and McElhinney (or Sparks)?
Then you would have:
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm
Tkachuk-Backlund-Nylander
Bennett-Ryan-Neal (or Neal on his natural left side and do Neal-Bennett-Ryan)
Dube-Jankowski-Czarnik
Lots to build around there. And 3 and a half seasons from now, their average age will be about what Kulak's is today.
I don't understand what those numbers are.
How come Hanafin doesn't age, but Valimaki does?
I think I understand what you're saying though.
All four of them are quite a bit younger than Kulak. I'd argue that they all have greater upside as well.
Valimaki turns 21 in a week. And Andersson turns 22 later in October. So it seemed disingenuous to call them 20 and 21.
Not only do they all have more upside than Kulak, I would argue that by the end of this year at the latest, they will all be better than Kulak. I think Andersson is now, and Valimaki is debatable.
Valimaki turns 21 in a week. And Andersson turns 22 later in October. So it seemed disingenuous to call them 20 and 21.
Not only do they all have more upside than Kulak, I would argue that by the end of this year at the latest, they will all be better than Kulak. I think Andersson is now, and Valimaki is debatable.
Valimaki turns 20 in a week.
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