[PGT] Bruins win Shoot-out

[killer_carlson]

Please, for the love of God, give Bennett and Jankowski an NHL calibre winger for the entire season.

PS, Hathaway is not that guy.

[---Hatrick---]

Originally Posted by Rooster697

The replay cuts out with 10 minutes left in the third, stupid sportnet

To anyone that PVR’s games, note to self to also record the program that follows as often times, games will go past that 3 hour programming time, especially if it goes to OT.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

Please, for the love of God, give Bennett and Jankowski an NHL calibre winger for the entire season.

PS, Hathaway is not that guy.

Offensively, no, Hathaway clearly isn't. However, on the defensive side he was doing yeoman's work all night. Really strong awareness in the neutral zone and covered everyone well in the defensive zone.

However, if Dube can do the same thing and add a shot of offense, I think he's going to be on that line to start the season.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by Cali Panthers Fan

However, if Dube can do the same thing and add a shot of offense, I think he's going to be on that line to start the season.

I’m really hoping this happens.

[David Struch]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

but there's just this panic to his game when he gets in close. They showed a slow-mo of his chance off Jankowski's saucer pass, and you could see him wave his stick back and forth frantically before making one too many moves and losing the puck. Tough to figure out.

So demoralizing.

[Dion]

"Scarface" Hathaway

The cut was deep enough to slice all the way down to his cheekbone.

Thirteen stitches were required to seal the wound.

“A couple of the guys saw the before picture,” Hathaway responded when asked about the reaction from his pals. “They were a little better after, I think.”

In fact, he was singled out by his new boss, Bill Peters, as one of the guys who impressed in what turned out to be a grouchy game.

“He was real competitive, and I thought he did a good job of putting pucks in good spots and playing the way you need to play,” Peters praised. “It’s a transition when you go from being in the off-season and playing summer hockey, where it’s all about skill and hanging onto pucks, probably a little too long. You can get some summer habits, and I didn’t think he had those.

“I think he did a good job of working and getting in on the forecheck, but also playing real responsible away from the puck.”

https://calgarysun.com/sports/hockey...ch-in-shenzhen

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Robo

I didnt watch the game how was the crowd? Did it look like they were cheering for one team over the other?

They don't call it Red China for nothing. The crowd was definitely pro-Flames by the end.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Kovaz

I'm not overly worried about the 3-goal implosion, looked like it was just us getting some wires crossed and turning the puck over, and Boston was lethal finishing those chances.

I thought Gilles struggled to adapt to the larger ice surface in the first period. He got better as the game went on but he still lacks the consistancy to be a regular backup.

[topfiverecords]

Han i fin

[RedHawk12]

The one criticism I have with Bennett is I think he plays faster than his mind can keep up. Not in the same sense as a guy like Lombardi whose hands didn't catch up with his speed, but more like Bennett doesn't have the ability to slow the play down.

I really really like his hustle. He hits and plays an up-tempo game. I wish he slows down a bit more to make better plays...take an extra second to find a better pass, out-wait the goalie, etc. His play is a bit frantic and the biggest reason I think he hasn't had a breakout yet.

[FBI]

My thoughts:

We look faster. (It is amazing the difference when we ditch the slow useless old guys) in fact I don't think we have that many slow guys at all now. The only slightly slower guys like Monahan and Tkachuk have so much other awesomeness.

I like Czarnik after one viewing and I liked him a lot on the power play.

Were we actually moving around on the pp? What a difference! Yay to no more stationary crap.

Some silly turnovers leading to 2 on 1s but I'm chalking that up to preseason rust.

It's getting pretty exciting around here!

[Lanny_McDonald]

Surprise, surprise, I have a much different perspective than what most have posted here. Looked like the same Flames from last season to me. Same "possession" darlings who spend most of the night in the offensive zone, but get owned when they don't play a perfect game. Same Flames special teams who rely on the junior-esque drop pass to enter the zone. Same Flames who give up great scoring opportunities right after scoring. Flames gave up way too many odd man rushes and high danger scoring opportunities. I really felt bad for Gillies during the first period, as the team just committed brain fart after brain fart, leading to odd man, high danger scoring opportunities. The Bruins were very good at getting the goaltender moving and never allowing Gillies to square up to make a save. I really hope the Flames take a look at this tape and learn what to do, because Halak was allowed to square up most of the game. Breaking the lines/players down.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm

Gaudreau was Gaudreau and Monahan was Monahan. Lindholm just isn't a good fit on this line. I like Lindholm a lot, but he just doesn't play at the same level as his linemates. He's more of a Backlund/Frolik player and would likely be a much better fit on that line.

Bennett-Jankowski-Hathaway

Worst line on the ice for the Flames. Jankowski struggled with the puck at times, waiting for his linemates to get to open ice. Hathaway missed the first, but didn't look any different from last season. I don't see a NHL player there. Bennett was Bennett. The guy just can't make a pass to save his life, and his shot is never on net. When he had an opportunity, he missed the net. When he had an opportunity to make a pass, he put it in the guys skates or just flat out missed him. Most disappointing game on the ice for the Flames.

Tkachuk-Backlund-Neal

Really missing something. I think that something is a center with some skill to move the puck. Backlund just isn't a high skilled center wgo can distribute the puck. Tkachuk struggled a bit in his own right, but it is tough when your center can't create offense and space for his linemates. Neal looked just as advertised, a guy who reads the play well and finds himself in positions to convert chances.

Frolik-Ryan-Czarnik

A double edged sword on this line. They generated some chances, but I don't think they were a sum of their pieces. Frolik was out of sorts with these two. Definitely not the offense first line that Ryan and Czarnik were focused on. Not sure how you make these guys work.

Giordano-Brodie


Looked fairly solid throughout the game. A work in progress, but looked good. Brodie looks much more comfortable in this config.

Hamonic-Hanafin

Solid throughout. Nothing to rave about, and nothing to complain about. Hanafin was very surprisingly solid.

Stone-Kulak

Looked solid. Don't know why anyone was concerned about either of them.

Coaches and Systems

Don't see a helluva lot different from last season. Same special teams with the same tired drop pass to gain the zone. Nothing that would focus on getting the goaltender moving. The system still allows to get the goaltender square and that is something that needs to be changed.

First game of the preseason and nothing that made me believe this version of the Flames would be better or worse than last season. I would look to some minor changes in the lineup and see how these guys perform together.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Neal
Bennett-Jankowski-Tkachuk
Frolik-Bennett-Lindholm
Klimchuk-Ryan-Czarnik

I see potential from this club, but I'm not certain I see enough to make believe this team can challenge for anything. They played a squad that was half of the Bruins regular team to pretty much a draw. It was a good start, but nothing to write home to mother about.

[CaptainYooh]

I didn't have the energy left to watch the game in real time last night. Just finished watching it on PVR (unfortunately, the recording stopped with 13 minutes left in the 3rd, so I've missed the 3rd goal, OT and shootout.)


First impressions - POSITIVE:

• Very fast team, it seems; if this is the hockey we're gonna get this season, it will be superior entertainment!
• Was very impressed by Ryan and Czarnik (didn't expect to be this impressed, honestly);
• Giordano and Brody, man, am I happy to see them together again, what a great pairing.
• Gaudreau and Monahan - seem to click right out of the gate; good stuff.
• Neal - a real driver; same play as always; shoots with no hesitation; drives to the net.

First impressions - meh:

• Gillies... three weak goals in like 2 minutes, same side, same angle... come on, bud, how are you going to crack that lineup if you do this?..
• Lindholm - was almost unnoticeable for a first-liner; not much of an impact.
• Hanifin - nothing much to complain about; but also nothing much to discuss, really. Hopefully, still in adjustment period.
• Our full-scale NHL roster (less Smith), vs. Boston's half-ass roster and we still lose a game. Yeah, weak goals from Gillies, yeah, a super-game by Halak; but still, this never goes down easy. Flames should have obliterated Boston...

Other than that, let's hope Smith finds his top-shape game and stays healthy. If that's the case, Flames are definitely a much stronger team this season. I am excited!

[NewFan]

For me it was a good game. And the best thing was I expected something a good or some goals from every line. But referees wanted extra fun for the Chinese crowd and made tie game.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

I didn't have the energy left to watch the game in real time last night. Just finished watching it on PVR (unfortunately, the recording stopped with 13 minutes left in the 3rd, so I've missed the 3rd goal, OT and shootout.)


First impressions - POSITIVE:

• Very fast team, it seems; if this is the hockey we're gonna get this season, it will be superior entertainment!
• Was very impressed by Ryan and Czarnik (didn't expect to be this impressed, honestly);
• Giordano and Brody, man, am I happy to see them together again, what a great pairing.
• Gaudreau and Monahan - seem to click right out of the gate; good stuff.
• Neal - a real driver; same play as always; shoots with no hesitation; drives to the net.

First impressions - meh:

• Gillies... three weak goals in like 2 minutes, same side, same angle... come on, bud, how are you going to crack that lineup if you do this?..
• Lindholm - was almost unnoticeable for a first-liner; not much of an impact.
• Hanifin - nothing much to complain about; but also nothing much to discuss, really. Hopefully, still in adjustment period.
• Our full-scale NHL roster (less Smith), vs. Boston's half-ass roster and we still lose a game. Yeah, weak goals from Gillies, yeah, a super-game by Halak; but still, this never goes down easy. Flames should have obliterated Boston...

Other than that, let's hope Smith finds his top-shape game and stays healthy. If that's the case, Flames are definitely a much stronger team this season. I am excited!

See i thought Lindholm was more impressive but Neal was more meh with the odd flashes of what he can do.

They did obliterate Boston in nearly every facet of the game. Goalies can win and lose games by themselves and that was the case here.

Have the Bs dress an AHL goalie too or the Flames dress their starter and it's a multi goal flames victory in either case. Don't read into it.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Have the Bs dress an AHL goalie too or the Flames dress their starter and it's a multi goal flames victory in either case. Don't read into it.

Completely disagree. The Bruins goals were a result of getting Gillies to move laterally, which is a gamble for any goaltender. The Flames didn’t do that with the Bruins tandem all day. You could put Smith in net, and the result is likely the same. Lateral movement was the difference, not the guy in net. The Bruins scoring opportunities were odd man rushes where the goaltender had to make a big lateral move. Not many goaltenders are good at that, especially Mike Smith. Outcome was likely the same.

[NewFan]

No worries about Neal and Lindholm. They tried too much to do something. Specially Lindhom. But it is their first game with new guys. They are smart players so they will learn how to play after a couple games.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

See i thought Lindholm was more impressive but Neal was more meh with the odd flashes of what he can do. ...

Neal always plays like that though. Coasting, coasting and then driving to the net all of a sudden. He's a shooter and a cherry-picker; but a good one at that.

Lindholm is a finesse player. I was hoping to see more of that, I guess, and I didn't. I am still biased about him being played on the wing instead of the center, where he likes to play. Will see. Too early for passing judgement.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by New Era

Completely disagree. The Bruins goals were a result of getting Gillies to move laterally, which is a gamble for any goaltender. The Flames didn’t do that with the Bruins tandem all day. You could put Smith in net, and the result is likely the same. Lateral movement was the difference, not the guy in net. The Bruins scoring opportunities were odd man rushes where the goaltender had to make a big lateral move. Not many goaltenders are good at that, especially Mike Smith. Outcome was likely the same.

Okay we'll keep the 3 Boston goals on the board since according to you Smith wouldn't be able to save those (even though I think Gillies tracked the puck/anticipated poorly while making himself small which i don't think Smith would've done in every instance but I digress). Halak still made some really difficult saves himself that most goalies in preseason form would not have made, simply put. He was the difference for Boston.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Lindholm is a finesse player. I was hoping to see more of that, I guess, and I didn't. I am still biased about him being played on the wing instead of the center, where he likes to play. Will see. Too early for passing judgement.

I think that's a bit of a mischaracterization of Lindholm. Yes he has good puck skills but he's very much a guy who's gritty on the puck like Tkachuk or Bennett. He'll grind and battle. That to me does not spell finesse player. Johnny and Czarnik are finesse players.