Iran hosting Holocaust conference

[FlamesAddiction]

I heard about this on the radio today. The purpose of the event is not to deny the Holocaust.... no..., it is just a forum where people can openly and freely discuss the evidence for the Holocaust without the shackles of Western taboo. Crazy! Apparently we are the ones who are oppressed.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/061211/w121151A.html


Canada is apparently represented, but I haven't found out the name of the person or organization that is there. David Duke is one of the participants as well.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I heard about this on the radio today. The purpose of the event is not to deny the Holocaust.... no..., it is just a forum where people can openly and freely discuss the evidence for the Holocaust without the shackles of Western taboo. Crazy! Apparently we are the ones who are oppressed.

http://www.cbc.ca/cp/world/061211/w121151A.html


Canada is apparently represented, but I haven't found out the name of the person or organization that is there. David Duke is one of the participants as well.

How can people deny the Holocaust?

I dont really understand that. Its like me denying the war of 1812.

[JimmytheT]

In the face of undenialable physical and documentary (as in official documents, not film) evidence, thousands of survivor testimonials, not to mention testimonials of those who committed or saw the acts being committed, and some people still believe that the holocaust "never happened". What a joke.

Just a bunch of anti-semetic muslims and christians having a forum of non-sense.

Denying the holocaust is like denying the theory of gravity.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by [LEFT

JimmytheT[/left];676847]In the face of undenialable physical and documentary (as in official documents, not film) evidence, thousands of survivor testimonials, not to mention testimonials of those who committed or saw the acts being committed, and some people still believe that the holocaust "never happened". What a joke.

Just a bunch of anti-semetic muslims and christians having a forum of non-sense.

Denying the holocaust is like denying the theory of gravity.

It's actually worse then that. Gravity is just a theory (a dam good theory, but theory none the less) the holocaust is straight up fact.

[Jayems]

There are a lot of things I like about Ahmadinejad, but I can never see how you can deny this... it just baffles me... he says some absurd things.

Maybe he's just trying to get a rise out of people, bring the spotlight onto his country... who knows.

* don't take me out of context. I don't like him, nor some of the things he says, I just think he's a very interesting man.

[Kjesse]

How you can deny gravity but affirm the holocaust.... as someone less than 70 years old...is beyond me.

Its one thing to support a cause or belief. Its quite another to make something into something it is not.

Denying the holocaust has a lot of racial/religious permutations. But comparing that to denying gravity? Give your head a hard shake. If you still think that way, shake harder, rinse, repeat.

Denying the holocaust is related to a disliking of the creation of Israel.

Has nothing to do with science. (Kipperfan has it right-- its like denying the War of 1812-- we believe it because it has been historically documented.)

There's a lot of hate in the world, especially in the middle east. It is politically popular among many to deny a fundamental reason for the creation of the modern Israeli state.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by kipperfan

How can people deny the Holocaust?

I dont really understand that. Its like me denying the war of 1812.

How on earth is the war of 1812 anything at all like an attempted slaughter of an entire race of people?

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

How on earth is the war of 1812 anything at all like an attempted slaughter of an entire race of people?

Um... they're both historical facts?

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

How on earth is the war of 1812 anything at all like an attempted slaughter of an entire race of people?

I suggest you re-read my post.

I was not comparing the two events, I was saying me denying the war of 1812 would make as much sense as someone else denying the Holocaust.

[SeeGeeWhy]

I don't understand why you choose to use the phrase "me denying the war of 1812", as if the war of 1812 had some sort of particular significance to yourself, your family, your heritage, etc.

Your word selection leads me to believe you are comparing the two, not merely saying that they are two historical events.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

I don't understand why you choose to use the phrase "me denying the war of 1812", as if the war of 1812 had some sort of particular significance to yourself, your family, your heritage, etc.

Your word selection leads me to believe you are comparing the two, not merely saying that they are two historical events.

Your belief is wrong.

Funny...it seems everyone has understood what I was saying.

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

I don't understand why you choose to use the phrase "me denying the war of 1812", as if the war of 1812 had some sort of particular significance to yourself, your family, your heritage, etc.

Your word selection leads me to believe you are comparing the two, not merely saying that they are two historical events.

Have you had your coffee yet?

[SeeGeeWhy]

Your comparison doesn't make any sense. That is all I am trying to say.

[SeeGeeWhy]

Originally Posted by Bent Wookie

Have you had your coffee yet?

Hahaha. No, but that's not the point.

[kipperfan]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

Your comparison doesn't make any sense. That is all I am trying to say.

Makes perfect sense.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by JimmytheT

Just a bunch of anti-semetic muslims and christians having a forum of non-sense.

Just want to remind people again the the Holocaust was not just about jews. There were lot of others who were also horribly persecuted....ie slavs, gypsies, the mentally ill, homosexuals etc.

Im not disagreeing with anything you said, it just seems like all the other groups out there always seem to get ignored.

[Burninator]

Saw this on the news last night and they said that in Germany and the United States it is illegal to deny the Holocaust. I guess to stop nonsense like this from happening.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by SeeGeeWhy

I don't understand why you choose to use the phrase "me denying the war of 1812", as if the war of 1812 had some sort of particular significance to yourself, your family, your heritage, etc.

Your word selection leads me to believe you are comparing the two, not merely saying that they are two historical events.

You are aware where this war took place, right?

[Looger]

here we have it, the EXACT reason so many people question the holocaust.

because it is forced down our gullets and manipulated to make everyone feel guilty for something that they did not do.

i can think of one movie focusing on the armenian genocide (ararat), is there one focusing on stalin's starving out of the ukraine?

every year there's more holocaust movies, holocaust memorials, and many people react strongly when focusing on all this.

personally i believe that the ADL and b'nai bri'ith (sp?) hype all this up because without anti-semitism, they are OUT OF BUSINESS. there's been plenty of independent investigations into where the money for anti-jewish hate groups come from, and it's VERY interesting sometimes.

i have a great book on this called 'the holocaust industry' by norman finkelstein. recommend it highly.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Looger

here we have it, the EXACT reason so many people question the holocaust.

because it is forced down our gullets and manipulated to make everyone feel guilty for something that they did not do.

Look, I don't want to set off a firestorm, but I would suggest that the main reason people usually deny the holocaust is because it's convenient for them. People don't question it because it is "forced down their gullets"--they question it because they buy into a vast anti-semitic philosophy that includes paranoid fantasies of a Jewish conspiracy manipulating the media and the historical record for personal profit. I realize that other groups were persecuted in the holocaust--but holocaust denial is all about anti-semitism; end of story.