12-11-2006, 08:45 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Originally Posted by Buzzard
Are there any copyright issues regarding wikipedia? Example... copy and pasting an article to a web page? I would credit it of course. I had compiled my own from the same wiki page, but it got deleted, now I'm to lazy to do it again, and was hoping just to copy it.
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I dont know for sure, but considering Wikepedia articles are wrtien by the general public you shouldnt have a problem.
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12-11-2006, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Probably not, but be aware that much of Wikipedia is practically copy and pasted from other sources. Some of the sources are listed on the Wiki page, but sometimes they are not cited.
If you just go and "copy and paste", you could accidently take someone else's copyrighted work and not even know.
If there is a source listed, you should use that source instead of Wikipedia.
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12-11-2006, 09:08 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: do not want
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If you're copying wikipedia for a paper then don't bother. Use google scholar to find what you're looking for and avoid a deduction of at least one letter grade.
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12-11-2006, 09:31 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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yeah... wikipedia + college papers = no good.
But i'm assuming thats not whats in question here... that GDFL looks like a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo.
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12-11-2006, 09:38 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakan
If you're copying wikipedia for a paper then don't bother. Use google scholar to find what you're looking for and avoid a deduction of at least one letter grade.
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Originally Posted by Jayems
yeah... wikipedia + college papers = no good.
But i'm assuming thats not whats in question here... that GDFL looks like a lot of legal mumbo-jumbo.
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Yuppers on the college papers. Just finished marking some, and all I can say is....what the heck are people thinking? Wikipedia is not a scholarly resource...
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12-11-2006, 09:40 PM
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
Self-Banned
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Wikipedia is a lazy resource though. It's probably a good thing Wiki wasn't up and running when I had to write papers.
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12-11-2006, 09:41 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I remember doing some Uni assignment...and I looked at Wikipedia just to see what's up. I ended up rewriting most of the article...which is scary, because if I was just learning this stuff, and knew enough to find all sorts of errors, who the hell was writing the original article?
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12-11-2006, 09:41 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
Wikipedia is a lazy resource though. It's probably a good thing Wiki wasn't up and running when I had to write papers.
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Lol I hear that. I would be "copy and pasting" from Wiki every paper.
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12-11-2006, 09:52 PM
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by RedHot25
Yuppers on the college papers. Just finished marking some, and all I can say is....what the heck are people thinking? Wikipedia is not a scholarly resource...
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good first place to go to pick up a list of sources though...
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12-11-2006, 09:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Silicon Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot25
Yuppers on the college papers. Just finished marking some, and all I can say is....what the heck are people thinking? Wikipedia is not a scholarly resource...
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It's getting me by 4th year 
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12-12-2006, 06:21 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Probably stuck driving someone somewhere
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Originally Posted by Phaneuf3
good first place to go to pick up a list of sources though...
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Ha this is true. It does have its uses, such as this as well as giving you a VERY beginning/preliminary idea about the topic - as in maybe some ideas of what topic idea you may want to concentrate your research on, etc.
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Originally Posted by Phanuthier
It's getting me by 4th year |
Ha! Well be lucky none of your papers have crossed my desk then
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12-12-2006, 07:39 AM
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Lives In Fear Of Labelling
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Speaking of copy and pasting from the internet, I was one of the first people in my small town to get the internet, like in '95. I cheated like hell when I first got it. It was like a untapped resource and teachers had no idea how to check these things, even our computer lab teacher came to me to learn about the net LOL. Oh good times, good times.
Nothing like surfing the web with a 14.4k modem (I was so happy when i first got that modem)
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12-12-2006, 08:15 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: London, England
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Back in the day, before Wikipedia and before papers were downgraded for copying, 1998 i think. I had to write a paper on the redvelopment of Wembley stadium here in London. It was for my geography A-level and i had 9 months to do it becuase it was worth 40% of the total grade. Many days were spent on sex, drugs and alcohol and i realized on the last day that i had actually done nothing towards this paper. I went on the internet with my trusty 56k modem and found a proposal thingy with all the information and questions, surveys, maps, plans and social/economic factors of the the redesign. I printed the whle thing out and put my name on it and submitted it. I recieved a total mark of 236/240 or something like that helping me to one of my 3 A grade A-levels. Cheating does prosper :P
Anyway these days i spend all day on wikipedia learning so much new information because i enjoy it, i am a geek. To get some good karma back i wrote a paper for my neighbour when he was at university and got him a top grade. I wrote the paper at lunchtime at work just on the knowledge from Wiki over the few years so it proves if you want to learn you will and there is no need to copy. But if all else fails some downright dirty cheating and stealing can suffice in some instances. :P
If you have to copy these days print the wiki article out and copy it but change every sentance and paragraph and change pictures/graphs. Then you are including the correct information but not just copying it. Also by reading and re-writing you are actually learning that information too.
Through cheating for tests at school i learnt more than if i had just revised. Plus the elaborate schemes me and my friends had should be rewarding of an A-grade just for effort.
I have just rambled on and i don't remember what i have even typed. I better end here. Damn vodka redbulls.
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12-12-2006, 12:51 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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I think even if you change every sentence, a sharp marker will notice that it was copied.
I worked on a group project last year of the year before. We had to prepare a document, and split up the sections. I read through this one guy's section, picked out a short phrase that I KNEW he did not write, and googled it in "quotes". Sure enough, he copied it, and most of everything else he "wrote", from a website. But not just any website. Say if the project was on "hot dogs", he copied directly from "hotdogs.com". That was lazy.
The worst was that I told him "You have to redo this". And so he did, and hardly changed it. And as they say in group projects, if your name is on it, you are responsible. So I did his damn work myself.
As for wikipedia in general, I too enjoy looking up random things. Even if they aren't true, I wouldn't know any better, and no one else does either, so they can't correct me.
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12-12-2006, 04:59 PM
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In the Sin Bin
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While one has to be an absolute fool to simply copy something from Wikipedia, it is very true that you can easily find good sources for most topics. Hell, everything you ever wanted to know about LSD you can learn from the references and external links alone... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD
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12-13-2006, 05:03 AM
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: London, England
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Originally Posted by Snakeeye
While one has to be an absolute fool to simply copy something from Wikipedia, it is very true that you can easily find good sources for most topics. Hell, everything you ever wanted to know about LSD you can learn from the references and external links alone... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LSD |
True that mate, although i knew alot about LSD before i read it.
If you read through the article you will learn it therefore re-write it without copying in your own style.
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