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Reggie Dunlop · 08-02-2018, 12:32 PM

I'd throw Hamonic into the Alternate Captain mix as a dark horse.

Flames_F.T.W · 08-02-2018, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I'd throw Hamonic into the Alternate Captain mix as a dark horse.

I agree. I was impressed by his "give a crap" meter at the end of the year, especially after we were eliminated.

Strange Brew · 08-02-2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TheScorpion

This is really easy.

Three captains:

C - Giordano
A - Monahan
A - Backlund

Four captains:

A - Tkachuk

Five captains:

A - Neal

Done.

Hamonic?

Locke · 08-02-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by badradio

Tre correcting mistakes. I’m glad he just wants the team to be better isn’t afraid to right some wrongs he made. I think this team could really do something, but I think it hinges on Peters, but he can’t be worse than gully so I’m hopeful.

Right. Players are players, they're people. I think Brouwer was brought in to do a job and he just wasnt able to do it.

Its partly because I dont think Gulutzan used him very appropriately, but ultimately the contract was bad and Brouwer just couldnt perform.

Mistake made, mistake rectified. Now we can all move along and have a new whipping boy.

Iggy599 · 08-02-2018, 12:37 PM

This move makes sense especially if Hanifin's contract factors into this decision. Also opens up a spot for someone to step up which is also exciting looking forward to training camp.

theslymonkey · 08-02-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by FlameX

Do you think it would be a good idea to give Tkachuk the "A" or just let Backlund have it?

I have nothing but gut on this, but I think I would want to see Neal with an A. He's a solid vet who has been in all situations in the NHL.

RedHawk12 · 08-02-2018, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by T-Dog

So with Brouwer gone, who’s the odds-on favourite for the new whipping boy this season? There has to be one every year, no?

Michael Stone, for the same reasons as Brouwer: overpaid and taking away ice time from our younger, better players.

Monahammer · 08-02-2018, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RedHawk12

Michael Stone, for the same reasons as Brouwer: overpaid and taking away ice time from our younger, better players.

But to a way lesser extent. Stone is overpaid like 1 million. Brouwer was overpaid like 3m5 million

The Boy Wonder · 08-02-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Bingo

Two issues with this (not an attack)

No one ever plans on problems, they arise. It's like saying yes to the Brick for a new suite of bedroom furniture and not paying a cent for 24 months. The 24 months come.

Secondly, nobody sets out to play fourth liners too much. They sign or trade for players to play in their 2nd and 3rd lines and they falter.

I was more just pointing to the fact that if we graduate more young guys into the bottom six and especially fourth line (or energy line) then we avoid paying guys in the 1.5 - 2.5m range to play 10mins or less a game for us then we've already more than made up for that 1.5mil cap hit.

The idea being that contributions from younger cheaper players in the coming years could alone offset the brouwer cap hit.

Beninho · 08-02-2018, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

Why was this ridiculous? Brouwer was a NHL veteran with several years of playoff experience and a Stanley Cup championship playing on a team comprised of a tonne of young players.

Brouwer is not a great hockey player, but there was never anything controversial about his sporting a letter. I continue to be mystified about how worked up some fans get about a team's alternates.

Sorry, I prefer the leaders of the team to lead by example and not mail it in for half the season.

metroneck · 08-02-2018, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bax

This is likely the difference between bridging Hanifin and getting him locked up long term. With our new found winger depth, I like the move.

Good point...

This was my only concern with waiting till next year to buy him out.

getbak · 08-02-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by keenan87

I don't really understand the purpose of the home and away split. Is one guy supposed to be a better leader on the road?

No, it's just a way to show more guys that you consider them part of the leadership group, and you're only allowed to have 3 guys wearing a letter per game.

The reason you do a home/away split is to make it easier on your equipment crew because they don't need to check with the coaches every game to make sure the right players are wearing the jerseys with the letters. It also ensures that each guy will have the letter for an equal number of games.

The Boy Wonder · 08-02-2018, 12:52 PM

Would like to see hamonic with an A. I prefer having a letter in each of your top 2 d pairings. that way you are most likely to have a letter on the ice ~45-47 minutes of the game just based on those two pairings. then you hope one of your better forwards can have one and be out there for some of that other time.

Personal preference but now that Brouwer doesn't have one, I don't really care.

GordonBlue · 08-02-2018, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Macindoc

So do we need a poll to determine who the new whipping boy will be?

unless he breaks out, it will be Bennett.

Reggie Dunlop · 08-02-2018, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Would like to see hamonic with an A. I prefer having a letter in each of your top 2 d pairings. that way you are most likely to have a letter on the ice ~45-47 minutes of the game just based on those two pairings. then you hope one of your better forwards can have one and be out there for some of that other time.

That was my reasoning as well.

Peters will have his preferences too. Staal, Skinner and Faulk were his leadership group in Carolina. Two forwards and a defenceman.

theinfinitejar · 08-02-2018, 01:11 PM

There should be a framed picture of Troy Brouwer in the GM's office as a warning from history.

Dan403 · 08-02-2018, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by theinfinitejar

There should be a framed picture of Troy Brouwer in the GM's office as a warning from history.

He'll be on the balance sheet for four more years.

That should be enough.

delayedreflex · 08-02-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Would like to see hamonic with an A. I prefer having a letter in each of your top 2 d pairings. that way you are most likely to have a letter on the ice ~45-47 minutes of the game just based on those two pairings. then you hope one of your better forwards can have one and be out there for some of that other time.

Personal preference but now that Brouwer doesn't have one, I don't really care.

I know only the players with letters can go talk to the ref regarding penalties, etc. - but does that actually ever accomplish anything? I'm curious if it ever influences a ref's decision.

Textcritic · 08-02-2018, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Beninho

Sorry, I prefer the leaders of the team to lead by example and not mail it in for half the season.

Again, I will reiterate my objection: why do any of us as fans care about which of the players serve as Alternates? We don't actually know why some are selected where others are not, and as far as I can tell this makes virtually no difference to a team's fortunes. I believe the Flames will be a better team with another player playing in Brouwer's spot in the lineup, but do I believe they will be better because he will no longer have an "A" stitched to his jersey? Certainly not.

Erick Estrada · 08-02-2018, 01:26 PM

I felt he would be bought out but I thought maybe in the last year of the deal as the owners are paying him almost $10 million not to play. Flames ownership takes a lot of flack here but I don't think anyone should question that they are not doing whatever it takes to ice a winner for the fans.