Big Brother 20

[Cecil Terwilliger]

There's been a bunch of debate as to how Kaycee and Angela should be classified.

Consensus seems to be they are coasting, not floating.

She has a solid alliance, is intentionally not winning any comps, not making any waves, just focusing on having solid social game and letting her alliance members protect her.

The problem is eventually she'll be viewed as useless unless she makes it all the way to final 2. This isn't BB16 anymore, people aren't gonna fall for the Derrick or Victoria thing anymore. People know they have a better chance against a strong player because the jury votes with their hearts not with their heads. You won't beat someone who coasted to the end because they won't have any enemies and people don't vote for ruthlessness, they're all too bitter and angry (or at least the past juries have been).

[Cecil Terwilliger]

If I was thinking about my final 2 or 3, I'd want someone like Sam with me. She's not gonna be great in physical comps like Brett would be, she's not quite a floater, she doesn't seem to have any ride or die housemates.

Bayleigh would be another good option but she's risky. She's not very good at comps and has terrible game play so she'd be an ideal candidate to go up against for votes. She'll lose because she's crazy but she's crazy so any final 3 with her is playing russian roulette.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Got to look at the jury as much as who you're sitting next to. I would be a bit hesitant on taking Bayleigh (as a dude) right now if the next people out are all guys, especially Brett and JC.

A lot of talk about female empowerment this season. If Bayleigh wins and she already has Haleigh, Rockstar and Fessy votes. If Sam keeps with her trend and votes for Bayleigh as a strong woman, you need to hope that none of Angela, Kaycee or Rachel vote for similar reasons. And even if they don't vote for that reason, you still need to hope they aren't mad at you for some other reason as you need to sweep the remaining votes.

Like Scottie might have a better shot with Haleigh than Bayleigh just because of the Sam vote.

Also think there's a lot of game to be played. Easy for Angela and Kaycee to turn the perception around if they wanted to, it's not like they have even had the opportunity to play in a lot of challenges when they are never selected for veto.

[OutOfTheCube]

Yeah it's way too early to be thinking about end-game for anyone yet. Have to actually see who makes it to jury first.

[Calgary14]

JC seems to be playing well so far, Sam's comment about him being well liked by pretty much everyone in the house means he's been able to stay away from any drama (aside from Bayleigh). He will have to pick a side eventually.

I'd imagine producers are struggling with Angela and Rachel - can't even tell they're there most of the time. Guessing they don't get any coverage because they're low key and don't cause any of the drama that usually gets edited in. Kaitlyn was great for ratings and now they'll need someone else to fill that void.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I don't think it is ever too early to start talking final 3 deals. Very rarely have we seen a season where the final 3 had no alliance going in. And part of that is making sure that the right players in the house are the ones who will vote for you on jury.

Right now probably only Brett has a clear "enemy" in Rockstar, so most HGs probably aren't too concerned. But I'd for sure be thinking about evening the numbers if I was a male houseguest. For once I think we might finally see the women turn on the men and end up with a stacked female final 3 and jury and based on the convos we've heard, it is likely they'll vote on one thing and one thing alone.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

JC seems to be playing well so far, Sam's comment about him being well liked by pretty much everyone in the house means he's been able to stay away from any drama (aside from Bayleigh). He will have to pick a side eventually.

I'd imagine producers are struggling with Angela and Rachel - can't even tell they're there most of the time. Guessing they don't get any coverage because they're low key and don't cause any of the drama that usually gets edited in. Kaitlyn was great for ratings and now they'll need someone else to fill that void.

From reddit threads all Angela does is work out and sleep.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

I’m sure people have gone from a random invisible HG to mad with power HOH psycho before but I can’t recall a transformation quite as obvious as Bayleigh. Holy crap she’s gone insane with a power that only lasts a few days.

[savardandjokinen]

Angela and Kaycee had screen time today!

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Damn. If Brett wins that veto and Bayleigh doesn’t have that absurdly powerful app, this season was about to achieve legendary status. We need to get lucky and have the right HOH even out the numbers between alliances and men/women. Rachel going home will help.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I’m sure people have gone from a random invisible HG to mad with power HOH psycho before but I can’t recall a transformation quite as obvious as Bayleigh. Holy crap she’s gone insane with a power that only lasts a few days.

Dustin in Big Brother 8. Wore the robe and a crown basically the whole week and never his the fact that he was the man.

If I remember correctly, he was blindsided the following week(maybe the week after)when he thought he was the pawn against Evel Dick. One of the better blindsides I’ve seen in BB.

[Calgary14]

Tyler should've thrown the veto comp but now that he's won it he's handling it well

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Calgary14

Tyler should've thrown the veto comp but now that he's won it he's handling it well

Easy to say he should have thrown it but he couldn’t know for sure that he wasn’t a replacement nominee choice for Bayleigh. He felt better securing his safety. Hard to blame him.

[mile]

Bayleigh letting the power getting to her head...and what a terrible move to tell Rachel about her power. She's the one who's full of negative energy.

JC has been playing a good game, him and Tyler are a dangerous pair. Hope there's another blindside tomorrow and Brett stays. A Brett HOH would be amazing at this point.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mile

Bayleigh letting the power getting to her head...and what a terrible move to tell Rachel about her power. She's the one who's full of negative energy.

JC has been playing a good game, him and Tyler are a dangerous pair. Hope there's another blindside tomorrow and Brett stays. A Brett HOH would be amazing at this point.

I was going to say that. The biggest advantage of her power was he element of surprise. Now the next HOH not in her alliance has to put her on the block to force her to use her power. On one hand her HOH will be a success because she will get out a member of level 5 but she's been so rude and condescending to houseguests that I don't think anyone is going to want her going deep and possibly getting HOH again.

I wouldn't be surprised if Tyler is trying to gather up the votes to evict Rachel as she flipped on him and they would have the numbers to keep Brett if they could convince Sam and JC.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

I’m sure people have gone from a random invisible HG to mad with power HOH psycho before but I can’t recall a transformation quite as obvious as Bayleigh. Holy crap she’s gone insane with a power that only lasts a few days.

We've also seen the (more common) flipside of that this week -- where random invisible HG goes to curled up mewling psycho when they have to sit on the block for a couple days. Rachel dug her own grave not being able to handle the pressure while Brett sits there chilling.

[MillerTime GFG]

It's too bad Bayleigh has that power b/c I really liked Tyler's reverse psychology move on her to try to get her to put up Scottie if he were to use the veto. Would have been interesting to see if she would have fallen for it. Tyler is proving to be really smartly deceptive.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

It's too bad Bayleigh has that power b/c I really liked Tyler's reverse psychology move on her to try to get her to put up Scottie if he were to use the veto. Would have been interesting to see if she would have fallen for it. Tyler is proving to be really smartly deceptive.

It was certainly a great thought/effort, but I don't think she would have gone thru with it.

Tyler is a gamer. Love watching him play.

[belsarius]

Tyler was in an interesting position when he found out of Bayleigh's power. I was really hoping he could use his power to basically counter hers.

Tyler convinces Bayleigh that Scottie is his #1
Tyler used veto, gets Brett off, pisses Bayleigh off
Scottie goes up and goes home
Bayleigh is pissed at Tyler so I would expect her to use her power to nominate him
Tyler uses his cloud to escape Bayleigh's noms
Chaos

Lots of complications why he wouldn't have done it.. what if B's side wins HoH and goes for the backdoor instead and he wastes his power... or who would put up the replacement nom when he escapes, the HoH or her, and he risks his alliance again? Of course does anyone outside L6 actually realize how close he is to them.

I just think it would have been wild to see play out. And how epic if it worked.

[Flash Walken]

Tyler's season to lose at this point.