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				THIS! As someone who has been through a very messy divorce and thus has been through the court process extensively, this hits the nail on the head! 
 
My ex filed many affidavit's(she still does for our custody battle) and it's ful. of lies... My ex lies in court all the time and there are no repercussions unless I can actually prove her lies which can be tough when people make allegations on hearsay. 
			
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So, would you be karlsson or Caryk in this scenario?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-22-2018, 09:10 PM
			
			
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				See: Jian Ghomeshi. 
			
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not guilty =/= innocent.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-22-2018, 10:28 PM
			
			
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			Hoffman would have rounded out our top 9 very nicely.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2018, 08:55 AM
			
			
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				Hoffman would have rounded out our top 9 very nicely. 
			
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If we traded for Hoffman, Neal would likely not be a Flame. Maybe that is better but we got Neal with just cap space and no drama
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2018, 09:08 AM
			
			
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				If we traded for Hoffman, Neal would likely not be a Flame. Maybe that is better but we got Neal with just cap space and no drama 
			
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Neal was free, I'd me more concerned on what we gave up in a trade to acquire Hoffman than the drama.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2018, 09:10 AM
			
			
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			Plus Neal was acquired without any assets going the other way. Either an asset equal value to Boedker or the draft picks, which included a 2nd rounder.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2018, 09:20 AM
			
			
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				Neal was free, I'd me more concerned on what we gave up in a trade to acquire Hoffman than the drama. 
			
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Seeing the return...you'd be concerned if we had dealt Troy Brouwer and say...Hunter Shinkaruk for Mike Hoffman?
 
I'd still make that trade today with Neal in the fold.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-23-2018, 09:32 AM
			
			
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				Seeing the return...you'd be concerned if we had dealt Troy Brouwer and say...Hunter Shinkaruk for Mike Hoffman? 
 
I'd still make that trade today with Neal in the fold. 
			
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That isn’t a comparable return.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-24-2018, 01:43 PM
			
			
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				Seeing the return...you'd be concerned if we had dealt Troy Brouwer and say...Hunter Shinkaruk for Mike Hoffman? 
 
I'd still make that trade today with Neal in the fold. 
			
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I would also get Crosby if we are getting inverse value for those assets.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2018, 12:02 AM
			
			
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			If the asking price was something similar in value to Boedker I'd make that trade in a second.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-25-2018, 02:39 AM
			
			
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				If the asking price was something similar in value to Boedker I'd make that trade in a second. 
			
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Yeah, Boedker might be overpaid, but he is a serviceable player.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-25-2018, 07:26 AM
			
			
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			I might have considered Frolik + Shinkaruk + 4th for Hoffman and still signed Neal 
 
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			09-01-2018, 12:09 AM
			
			
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			https://ottawasun.com/news/local-new...4-53b37a85f632
More information regarding the timeline and Caryk’s efforts to clear her name.   
Essentially, a third party has investigated the troll comments in question and nothing ties them to her IP.  
 
Not sure what to believe, but how bad does this look on the Karlson’s if it is proven that they had no evidence behind their accusations?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 01:00 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Funkhouser
					 
				 
				https://ottawasun.com/news/local-new...4-53b37a85f632
More information regarding the timeline and Caryk’s efforts to clear her name.   
Essentially, a third party has investigated the troll comments in question and nothing ties them to her IP.  
 
Not sure what to believe, but how bad does this look on the Karlson’s if it is proven that they had no evidence behind their accusations?  
			
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It would be totally Ottawa for them to have traded Hoffman for peanuts when he looked like the bad party, just to have the situation turn on Karlsson just before they have to trade him.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 01:47 AM
			
			
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			I’m starting to think that this isn’t going to end well for the Karlsson’s...
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 05:31 AM
			
			
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			As usual people are guilty in the court of public opinion before all of the facts are known, just because one party shouts their accusations louder than the other party can reply.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 06:02 AM
			
			
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				As usual people are guilty in the court of public opinion before all of the facts are known, just because one party shouts their accusations louder than the other party can reply. 
			
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I think I mentioned this from the start, spidey sense was tingling.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 06:19 AM
			
			
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			Good, this means I can enjoy having Hoffman on the Panthers guilt free. 
 
Still sucks for the Karlssons. No justice for them and they will end up looking bad from this process that forced a player out of town.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			09-01-2018, 07:31 AM
			
			
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				https://ottawasun.com/news/local-new...4-53b37a85f632
More information regarding the timeline and Caryk’s efforts to clear her name.   
Essentially, a third party has investigated the troll comments in question and nothing ties them to her IP.  
 
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Well, it's not accurate to say that the third party found nothing that ties the comments to 'her IP'.  What the article does say is that the owner of one website doesn't think the posts on his one website were tied to any IP he would have known Caryk to use.  But that's easy enough to do with a simple VPN or proxy service.  Like one would have used to get American Netflix instead of Canadian.  
 
Though, yes. The Karlssons will need to show evidence at some point.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			09-01-2018, 08:51 AM
			
			
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				Well, it's not accurate to say that the third party found nothing that ties the comments to 'her IP'.  What the article does say is that the owner of one website doesn't think the posts on his one website were tied to any IP he would have known Caryk to use.  But that's easy enough to do with a simple VPN or proxy service.  Like one would have used to get American Netflix instead of Canadian.   
 
Though, yes. The Karlssons will need to show evidence at some point. 
			
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Use of a VPN or proxy would have been evident through the web logs from the site the device connected to.  Also would have been evident on the devices Cary’s used.  The investigator would have caught all of that.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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