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			Bennett should be nowhere near the top 6.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 05:38 AM
			
			
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			Still in awe at how different this team looks today than it did at the end of the season. 
 
Mostly I am excited for Lindholm and Neal. those two alone are massive additions to this top 6. Giddy I tell ya. Giddy.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Bennett should be nowhere near the top 6. 
			
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Or maybe the top 6 is exactly where he should be. Or at least where we all hoped he would be.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 06:53 AM
			
			
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				Or maybe the top 6 is exactly where he should be. Or at least where we all hoped he would be. 
			
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Those are two very different things.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 06:55 AM
			
			
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				Those are two very different things. 
			
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Yes, they are, but I would not leave it out of the realm of possibilities that Bennett still have the potential to be a top 6 player.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				"Give him the no pressure opportunity" 
 
*Sticks him on the shutdown line that faces the toughest opponents* 
			
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Backlunds good at sheltering  people though. Look at the wingers he had before Tkachuk. Guys like Colborne had career years being propped up by Backlund. For a while it was the spot to put new rookies
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 10:57 AM
			
			
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				And then you have 17 goal rookie centre Jankowski nowhere? He needs the same type of opportunities. That's why I don't think it makes much sense to play Lindholm at centre when everybody is healthy. We're just too deep at that position and then somebody gets bumped into a suboptimal position. Whereas RW is still relatively weak unless Lindholm is slotting there. Only when Lindholm is on RW does our depth at that position look respectable. 
 
Gaudreau-Monahan-Lindholm 
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Neal 
Bennett-Backlund-Frolik 
????-Ryan-Czarnik 
 
You can flip Lindholm/Neal. You can flip Jankowski/Backlund. You can flip Ryan and Jankowski. 
 
It's really hard to imagine Lindholm at centre when everybody is healthy. I still think he makes the most sense as the responsible right shot presence on the top line. Lets us split up our two best shooters in Neal and Monahan and stack a couple good scoring lines. 
			
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I think also you could put Ryan with Backlund and Frolik in tougher defensive zone situations against top line opponents and go Bennett-Shore-Czarnik or Mangiapane-Bennett-Czarnik. Still think they should re-sign Shore and keep Lazar & Brouwer off the ice somehow.
 
Or if Dube makes the team then it's easy. Bennett-Dube-Czarnik.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 03:10 PM
			
			
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				Backlunds good at sheltering  people though. Look at the wingers he had before Tkachuk. Guys like Colborne had career years being propped up by Backlund. For a while it was the spot to put new rookies 
			
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It should always be the spot to put new rookies. Give me a Mangiapane/Backlund/Frolik line for two or three months, I bet that does just fine.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-10-2018, 04:02 PM
			
			
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			I think that Neal was signed to be a shooter on the first line. 
 
Gaudreau (LW) - Monahan (C) - Neal (LW/RW) 
Bennett (LW/C) - Lindholm (C/RW) - Tkachuk (LW/RW) 
Mangiapane (LW/C) - Backlund (C) - Ryan (C/RW) 
Frolik (LW/C/RW) - Jankowski (C) - Czarnik (RW) 
 
Spares: Lazar (C/RW), Brouwer (RW), Hathaway (RW), & Quine (C) = 2 of these 4 to be waived, traded, or bought-out prior to opening night. I'm going to guess that Hathaway and Quine get waived to Stockton.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			07-10-2018, 04:08 PM
			
			
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				I think that Neal was signed to be a shooter on the first line. 
 
Gaudreau (LW) - Monahan (C) - Neal(LW/RW) 
Bennett (LW/C) - Lindholm (C/RW) - Tkachuk (LW/RW) 
Mangiapane (LW/C) - Backlund (C) - Ryan (C/RW) 
Frolik (LW/C/RW) - Jankowski (C) - Czarnik (RW) 
 
Spares: Lazar (C/RW), Brouwer (RW), Hathaway (RW), Quine (C) = 2 of these 4 to be waived, traded, or bought-out prior to opening night. I'm going to guess that Hathaway and Quine get waived to Stockton. 
			
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I love how the Flames have so many options now with lines.  I could see this being tried but that's not how my lines look. 
 
Monahan Gaudreau Neal
 
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Ryan Frolik Bennett 
 
Jankowski Czarnik Mangiapane/Brouwer(unfortunately)
 
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			07-17-2018, 02:00 AM
			
			
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			Well, that's not entirely accurate. He could've refused to sign with Dallas and re-enter the draft, choosing not to play there. 
 
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			07-17-2018, 02:04 AM
			
			
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				Well, that's not entirely accurate. He could've refused to sign with Dallas and re-enter the draft, choosing not to play there. 
 
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That's grasping at straws.  What kid wants to re-enter the draft?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			07-17-2018, 02:57 AM
			
			
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				That's grasping at straws.  What kid wants to re-enter the draft? 
			
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Every kid that gets drafted by Edmonton.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well, that's not entirely accurate. He could've refused to sign with Dallas and re-enter the draft, choosing not to play there. 
 
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He could have also walked away from any of his NHL teams and played beer league or World of Warcraft...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-18-2018, 08:32 PM
			
			
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				I think that Neal was signed to be a shooter on the first line. 
 
Gaudreau (LW) - Monahan (C) - Neal (LW/RW) 
Bennett (LW/C) - Lindholm (C/RW) - Tkachuk (LW/RW) 
Mangiapane (LW/C) - Backlund (C) - Ryan (C/RW) 
Frolik (LW/C/RW) - Jankowski (C) - Czarnik (RW) 
 
Spares: Lazar (C/RW), Brouwer (RW), Hathaway (RW), & Quine (C) = 2 of these 4 to be waived, traded, or bought-out prior to opening night. I'm going to guess that Hathaway and Quine get waived to Stockton. 
			
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Nope this is it
 
Johnny Monahan Neal 
Frolik Backlund Lindholm 
Tkachuk Jankowski Bennett 
Lazar Ryan Brouwer 
Hathaway Czarnik
 
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			07-18-2018, 08:47 PM
			
			
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				Nope this is it 
 
Johnny Monahan Neal 
Frolik Backlund Lindholm 
Tkachuk Jankowski Bennett 
Lazar Ryan Brouwer 
Hathaway Czarnik 
 
Mangiapane isnt ready, and Quine is depth 
			
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Swap Lazar with Dube 
Swap Brouwer with Czarnik 
Swap Brouwer with Lazar 
Swap Brouwer with Hathaway 
Swap Brouwer with Mangiapane 
Swap Brouwer with Quine 
Swap Brouwer with Klimchuk 
Swap Brouwer with Harvey 
Swap Brouwer for donuts. 
 
Now you’ve got it.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2018, 09:34 PM
			
			
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			I say put Bennett in the top 6. If he can't make it with guys like Johnny/Monahan/Tkachuk/Neal, then we know where he stands on this team and in the league
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-18-2018, 09:48 PM
			
			
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				I say put Bennett in the top 6. If he can't make it with guys like Johnny/Monahan/Tkachuk/Neal, then we know where he stands on this team and in the league 
			
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Never given, always earned.  Amiright?  
 
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				Nope this is it 
 
Johnny Monahan Neal 
Frolik Backlund Lindholm 
Tkachuk Jankowski Bennett 
Lazar Ryan Brouwer 
Hathaway Czarnik 
 
Mangiapane isnt ready, and Quine is depth 
			
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-No way Frolik plays ahead of Tkachuk. 
-Lazar will be waived to the AHL. 
-Czarnik and Mangiapane will fight hard for 3rd line duty 
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