07-04-2018, 09:03 AM
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#161
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Originally Posted by 3rd Degree
How about Brodie, Stone, Bennett, Jankowski, and a 1st for Karlsson?
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There is some good stuff there, but I assume Ottawa wouldn't value that package as high as others, simply because it's missing that 1 high end piece.
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07-04-2018, 05:52 PM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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From TSN: https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/garrioc...ptions~1432035
Garrioch says it's down to three teams: Vegas, Tampa, and Dallas. Vegas and Tampa have been in on it since the trade deadline, Dallas is a latecomer after Tavares made his decision.
Vegas is the only team interested in also taking on Ryan's contract. Ottawa knows that including Ryan will reduce the return for Karlsson, but it also might be their only chance to get rid of his contract.
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07-04-2018, 06:07 PM
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#163
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
Vegas is the only team interested in also taking on Ryan's contract. Ottawa knows that including Ryan will reduce the return for Karlsson, but it also might be their only chance to get rid of his contract.
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If Vegas is prepared to take the Ryan contract then this is absolutely the trade Ottawa makes. Melnyk won’t think twice about it.
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07-04-2018, 06:11 PM
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#164
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Racki
If Vegas is prepared to take the Ryan contract then this is absolutely the trade Ottawa makes. Melnyk won’t think twice about it.
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Not sure, Ottawa has cap space. They should be focusing on obtaining really high end prospects and draft picks.
Trade should not be focused on Ryan in my opinion.
Its a bonus if a team will take Ryan and offer the best package deal.
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07-04-2018, 06:23 PM
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#165
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Farther away from the Dome than I'd like
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Rumours out that melnyk is listening to offers for the team. I’m fairly certain he’s not selling as has been the case forever, but if he actually is considering it he may push for Ryan to be included in the deal to avoid paying for more of the contract while he waits on the sale. Pure uneducated speculation, but it just seems like something that would be in his strange little mind
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07-04-2018, 06:39 PM
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#166
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Wonder if Ottawa would consider a trade for Michael Stone to fill out their D after this trade goes through. If they get rid of Ryan as well, will they make the salary cap floor?
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07-04-2018, 06:50 PM
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#167
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Must suck to be a Senators fan. I can't believe they are actually open to accepting a middling return for one of the best players in the league if it means they can get rid of a bad contract. That's just an awful way to run a professional sports team.
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07-04-2018, 07:37 PM
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#168
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Must suck to be a Senators fan. I can't believe they are actually open to accepting a middling return for one of the best players in the league if it means they can get rid of a bad contract. That's just an awful way to run a professional sports team.
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It's ridiculous to think that Melnyk hasn't learned his lesson from all the backlash from everything he's done previously including their latest deal to get rid of their problem child. The Sharks just flipped him for a greater return and the fans got pissed. This could be more the same. What a dummy. Makes you wonder if he got rich just being cheap.
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07-04-2018, 07:52 PM
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#169
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Must suck to be a Senators fan. I can't believe they are actually open to accepting a middling return for one of the best players in the league if it means they can get rid of a bad contract. That's just an awful way to run a professional sports team.
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Especially when they are already going to have one of the lowest payrolls if they trade Karlsson without Ryan
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07-04-2018, 08:26 PM
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#170
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Parkdale
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jessnuts
Rumours out that melnyk is listening to offers for the team. I’m fairly certain he’s not selling as has been the case forever, but if he actually is considering it he may push for Ryan to be included in the deal to avoid paying for more of the contract while he waits on the sale. Pure uneducated speculation, but it just seems like something that would be in his strange little mind
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If he is broke, he is selling.
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07-04-2018, 09:03 PM
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#171
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Celebrated Square Root Day
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The sad thing about the Sens is this mess was likely started when they moved into Kanata. Seemed like a great deal on land at the time, but ultimately left them merely adequate in revenue during their best years and starving during any and all dips in success.
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07-04-2018, 10:38 PM
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#172
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First Line Centre
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Melnyk is such a brutal owner. Wonder how the negations are going with Mark Stone and how Melnyk will feel about shelling out for a big contract.
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07-05-2018, 12:54 AM
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#173
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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How are the sharks not in on this? This is Doug Wilson’s wet dream.
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07-05-2018, 06:29 AM
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#174
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
How are the sharks not in on this? This is Doug Wilson’s wet dream.
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Talk that Karlsson will only sign extension with Vegas TB or Dallas. No sense acquiring him to be a rental.
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07-05-2018, 09:24 AM
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#175
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Original FFIV
Talk that Karlsson will only sign extension with Vegas TB or Dallas. No sense acquiring him to be a rental.
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Given the choice between those teams, then Tampa is a no brainer. If he can force Ottawa's hand to choosing Tampa then that would be the optimal choice.
I think I'd rather choose San Jose over Vegas or Dallas as options though. He only has a 10 team no trade list, so if he is only willing to discuss extension with those three teams he is really limiting himself AND the Senators. At this point he obviously doesn't care about the Senators though.
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07-05-2018, 09:49 AM
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#176
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by dustygoon
How are the sharks not in on this? This is Doug Wilson’s wet dream.
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Doubt Dorion is taking calls from Wilson anymore. Nature of the business.
Vegas is the only team that can add the 18 mil in cap necessary for Ryan to be included with Karlsson. You have to think they still have the inside track.
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07-05-2018, 09:59 AM
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#177
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sector 7-G
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Last edited by Otto-matic; 07-05-2018 at 10:04 AM.
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07-05-2018, 10:01 AM
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#178
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Ottawa would have to send him out west. Trading Karlsson into your own division would come back to bite you. Also, it would be even more horrible for fan morale.
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07-05-2018, 10:05 AM
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#179
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Ottawa would have to send him out west. Trading Karlsson into your own division would come back to bite you. Also, it would be even more horrible for fan morale.
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It all depends on the return. If TB sends a massive return that far outstrips other offers, the Ottawa absolutely should move Karlsson there.
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07-05-2018, 10:06 AM
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#180
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
Ottawa would have to send him out west. Trading Karlsson into your own division would come back to bite you. Also, it would be even more horrible for fan morale.
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I think as a GM you need to get the absolute best deal possible regardless of geography. I never understood the concept of taking a lesser return because you are worried about the player coming back to haunt you 4 or 5 games a season as opposed to 2 out of conference. Get the best return so you can be more competitive for the other 75+ games on your schedule.
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