12-08-2006, 11:33 PM
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Another religious movie... The Golden Compass
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/
Starring Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig (aka. 007), Eva Green (from Casino Royal) and another young actress named Dakota.
Good book, a general critisism of religion, moreso the Roman Catholic Church. I believe this book is banned in the US?
Should be a real artistic movie... the story is based on the manifestation of everything. An artist could do wonders with that.
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Last edited by Phanuthier; 12-08-2006 at 11:43 PM.
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12-08-2006, 11:44 PM
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Its crazy how non-secular the Western world is becoming. I was watching Ghostbusters a couple weeks ago, which came out in what, 1982, 83? So only a little over 20 years ago. Remember the one scene in the mayor's office, when the Ghostbusters are pleading to allow the mayor to give them their proton packs and stuff back?
Then the arch-bishop comes into the office. The mayor runs over, and is like "Oh, your holiness" and kisses his hand. He wanted the arch-bishop's say on the matter. And later in the scene, when the mayor is finally about to grant them their stuff back, he looks at the arch bishop, who smiles and nods his head. Then the mayor tells them they can have it back.
No way in hell would a general pop culture movie like that include Catholic stuff like that anymore, where an arch bishop has a major say in a mayor's decisions. I just found it interesting how different we were only 20 years ago in terms of religion.
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12-08-2006, 11:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phanuthier
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0385752/
Starring Nicole Kidman, Daniel Craig (aka. 007), Eva Green (from Casino Royal) and another young actress named Dakota.
Good book, a general critisism of religion, moreso the Roman Catholic Church. I believe this book is banned in the US?
Should be a real artistic movie... the story is based on the manifestation of everything. An artist could do wonders with that.
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I don't think so.
You can check the list of banned books in the US below to see if it's on there...I can't find it.
Banned Book List:
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12-08-2006, 11:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sainters7
No way in hell would a general pop culture movie like that include Catholic stuff like that anymore, where an arch bishop has a major say in a mayor's decisions. I just found it interesting how different we were only 20 years ago in terms of religion.
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Movie goes through cycles. We've moved (more or less) away from the conspiracy movies and the traditional Walt Disney (I think traditional?) to
Pixar
stupid comedy (Borat, Jackass, Napolean Dynamite, Team America)
Religion
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12-09-2006, 12:10 AM
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I don't know that I'd consider this movie religious. I read the book many, many times. In fact, it's one of my favorite books. It does involve a "secret organization" but it really is far to fantasy like to be a religious movie.
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12-09-2006, 12:14 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phanuthier
Movie goes through cycles. We've moved (more or less) away from the conspiracy movies and the traditional Walt Disney (I think traditional?) to
Pixar
stupid comedy (Borat, Jackass, Napolean Dynamite, Team America)
Religion
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Dont forget superhero movies. And stupid comedies have always been around. Every decade has its share of crazy comedies that you only need an IQ of 12 for. And as dumb as the comedy in Team America may seem, I think its actually quite smart, due to all the political undertones in it.
And Im not so sure about leaning away from conspiracy movies. Maybe the actual target for the conspiracy has just switched...to religion.
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12-09-2006, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FFR
I don't know that I'd consider this movie religious. I read the book many, many times. In fact, it's one of my favorite books. It does involve a "secret organization" but it really is far to fantasy like to be a religious movie.
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The belief is that Lyra (a girl) is supposed to be Jesus. Other religious references of the polar bear and the manifestation of the soul.
There is one passage in this book where they are in the town spreading their cause, and it is supposed to be a direct attack at the Roman Catholic Church for recruiting something (can't fully remember)
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12-09-2006, 12:23 AM
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Phanuthier
The belief is that Lyra (a girl) is supposed to be Jesus. Other religious references of the polar bear and the manifestation of the soul.
There is one passage in this book where they are in the town spreading their cause, and it is supposed to be a direct attack at the Roman Catholic Church for recruiting something (can't fully remember)
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Yeah...apparently I'm not very bright then...because I definately didn't see it like that. It really doesn't make any sense to me that it would work that way, but I could defiantely see how it would become a religious movie in that case.
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12-09-2006, 02:06 AM
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It was a great book...I might have to go see this one when it comes out 
Might have to reread the book too since I hardly remember any of it..
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12-09-2006, 12:31 PM
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Had an idea!
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Why the hell would 'any' book be banned in the US?
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12-09-2006, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
Why the hell would 'any' book be banned in the US?
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it's not books don't get banned here I don't know where he got that from..
edit... just checked I guess Amazon hasn't got the word on the ban...
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12-09-2006, 01:32 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Sowa
it's not books don't get banned here I don't know where he got that from..
edit... just checked I guess Amazon hasn't got the word on the ban...
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Well Amazon is just a company...run by people who decide for themselves whether or not they will sell that book.
But having a book banned in the 'whole' US...no, that sounds stupid. 
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12-09-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
Well Amazon is just a company...run by people who decide for themselves whether or not they will sell that book.
But having a book banned in the 'whole' US...no, that sounds stupid. |
I know I was just saying that if Amazon is selling it obviously its not banned in the US... we have this little clause in the constitution about freedom of expression that would generally prevent a book from ever being banned in the US...
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12-11-2006, 01:45 PM
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Can someone please point me in the direction of the US Banned Book list.
The OP seemed fairly convinced it was banned, any links to back that up?
No, I didnt think so. Thanks for that.
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12-11-2006, 04:10 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by Sowa
I know I was just saying that if Amazon is selling it obviously its not banned in the US... we have this little clause in the constitution about freedom of expression that would generally prevent a book from ever being banned in the US...
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Exactly..
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12-11-2006, 04:16 PM
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What about private companies banning book/movies?
I know that's not the government, but shouldn't they come under more scrutiny for doing so?
especially since a few major companies tend to carry power in these industries
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12-11-2006, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates
What about private companies banning book/movies?
I know that's not the government, but shouldn't they come under more scrutiny for doing so?
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What do you mean?
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12-11-2006, 04:34 PM
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Companies have elected to not carry books in the past due to their content (Wal-Mart for example)... but I've never heard of the entire US banning a book. I guess some books might not be allowed into the country because their content was illegal.
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12-11-2006, 04:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by photon
Companies have elected to not carry books in the past due to their content (Wal-Mart for example)... but I've never heard of the entire US banning a book. I guess some books might not be allowed into the country because their content was illegal.
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Well I actually did some research on this today when I was bored and I found that some books were banned in the late 19th/early 20th century even pieces of lit like Voltaire, Homer, etc..., but nothing since then. However, legislation has been presented, but not passed that would allow the gov't to ban books that show how to make things like meth, bombs, etc... However, the legislation was never voted on and nothing has been banned...
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12-11-2006, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
What do you mean?
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Like the Walmart example that Photon just posted or another example is US movie theatres banning Death of a President.
The US doesn't doesn't ban things as a nation, but many of it's biggest companies do and without much scrutiny.
In a country that is so proud of it's "freedom of speech" why is there no backlash against Walmart for acting like a censoring dictator?
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