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Old 07-03-2018, 05:02 PM   #121
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I would think it starts with heiskanen and a pick, with another pick if they lock him in to a new contract.

That or Seguin but there's no way in hell he signs in Ottawa long term.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:06 PM   #122
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Pfff, they're not trading Seguin to Ottawa. Nill's not that crazy. And I wouldn't make any trade without a deal already worked out.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:09 PM   #123
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I'd guess something along 2019 1st, 2020 2nd, Janmark, Devin Shore, and Honka. Maybe Roope Hintz there instead of one of the other pieces.

Don't see Dallas trading Klingberg or Heiskanen. Unless it's a smaller package like Heiskanen and 2019 1st.
That doesn't seem like much more than what ROR was traded for - surely Karlsson is worth more?
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:11 PM   #124
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The Stars should be the last team that should be going after a guy like Karlsson. They already have the next best thing in terms of playing style and potential with Klingberg. Karlsson isn't the answer. If the Stars trade Heiskanen, the Sens completely robbed the Stars.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:11 PM   #125
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I think to get the Karlsson deal done without taking on Ryan, you're going to have to include one really high-end piece. I am not saying Seguin, but their best prospect / young player.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:13 PM   #126
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The Stars should be the last team that should be going after a guy like Karlsson. They already have the next best thing in terms of playing style and potential with Klingberg. Karlsson isn't the answer. If the Stars trade Heiskanen, the Sens completely robbed the Stars.
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I want the sens to completely rob the Stars (or whichever western team is dumb enough to do the trade)
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:18 PM   #127
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That doesn't seem like much more than what ROR was traded for - surely Karlsson is worth more?
Yeah, but Dorion.

The return should be Klingberg or Heiskanen and the 2019 1st to start.

But I bet Dorion goes for quantity.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:32 PM   #128
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Send Spezza back to Ottawa

Surprised Tampa isn't trying to put Hedman & Karlsson together.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:56 PM   #129
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I would consider Giordano+ for Karlsson.
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Old 07-03-2018, 05:58 PM   #130
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Surprised Tampa isn't trying to put Hedman & Karlsson together.

Who says Tampa hasn't kicked the tires? Dallas is a weird team - neither here nor there. Some great players up front, but not much else. If I'm going after Karlsson, I'm going after him because I'm adding that last piece. Dallas has quite a ways to go, so I don't think he's a fit right now. I do think there will be a decent deal for Ottawa as they can't possibly screw this one up, but I do think they'll go for quantity (1 high end prospect, project prospect, 1st, 2nd) as opposed to pushing for max quality (2 high end prospects, 1st, 2nd). I don't know Dallas prospects to guess at any names.
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:20 PM   #131
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Treliving: Hey Erik, want to stick it to Ottawa? If I can get you in a trade sign with me for $8million aav for only 3 years with only a no trade to Ottawa (Edmonton is a given).

Also Tre: Hey Pierre, thanks for letting me talk to Erik. So, you want to stick it to Karlsson? Trade him to me and I won't give him as much as he's asking. Also take this package because he really wants to play with Brouwer for some weird reason...
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:27 PM   #132
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It will be Heiskanen +
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:29 PM   #133
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I would laugh if nichiskin was part of the deal. On hearing he is traded to Ottawa, he decides to stay in russia.
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Old 07-03-2018, 06:47 PM   #134
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Talks on going between Dallas and Senators ... Senators focusing on Miro Heiskanen third overall to Dallas last year, one source suggested. Dallas would rather give up Julius Honka, 14th overall in 2014. Played 42 games with Stars last season. Stay tuned.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:11 PM   #135
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Well, now that that's leaked, Dorion can't agree to a deal with Honka instead of he looks like the loser.
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Flames to me could offer better than that... not saying we are in it at all but we could. Hieskanen is a blue chip D prospect but the fact that the stars are reportedly decreasing it to Honka?? Ottawa seems desperate and in a bad spot.

Bennett + Valimaki + Stone + 19 1st for Karlsson? That’s not a terrible offer at all.

Gaudreau - Monahan - Neal
Tkachuk - Backlund - Lindholm
Frolik - Ryan - Czarnik
Mangiapane - Jankowski - Foo
Brouwer

Giordano - Karlsson
Hanifin - Brodie
Kulak - Hamonic
Prout

...

Brouwer and Frolik would also have to eventually go to make room but wow... still though I just don’t see our cap structure allowing for a Karlsson and I am more than content to wait for Bennett, Valimaki and the 19 1st... but woooow that lineup could stack up points! Gio could be a 60 point D with Karlsson by his side.

Edit: forgot Hamonic (thanks Poe) somehow but this sends Andersson down for now until we are able to turn Brodie or Hamonic into futures or more help up front.

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Old 07-03-2018, 07:17 PM   #137
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where's Hamonic?
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where's Hamonic?
Unreal - even better - can’t believe I forgot him.
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Old 07-03-2018, 07:20 PM   #139
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Nashville?

Pk for Karlsson?
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