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View Poll Results: Thoughts on the James Neal signing?
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Love It
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Love the add, worried about the term
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37.15% |
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Neutral
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Wait and see
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Hate it
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07-02-2018, 02:08 PM
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#421
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
12 playoff goals in the last 2 playoffs (44 games), and a minus player on 2 100 point clubs. And now will be on the wrong side of 30. I hope he does well, but I can see this backfiring
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Actually 42 games.
And this again means 7 players had more playoff goals than him in the last two playoffs combined. That's it.
Those 7: Guentzel, Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Crosby, Forsberg, Schiefele and Malkin.
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07-02-2018, 02:11 PM
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#422
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Franchise Player
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Six Oilers fans hate the deal
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07-02-2018, 02:11 PM
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#423
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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Not exactly an illustrious group of deals.
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07-02-2018, 02:15 PM
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#424
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by heep223
No you don’t. You bet against Calgary last season IIRC. It’s fine to admit you’re not a fan of the team and the players on it.
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I did, and won a lot of money betting they would not make the playoffs. Is it really that bad to criticize certain moves? Maybe I will turn out to be wrong about this, it's just hockey and a nobody's opinion.
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07-02-2018, 02:18 PM
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#425
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I believe in the Jays.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Kitsilano
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Consistent 20 goal scoring winger, moderate cap hit, adds offensive depth to a team in desperate need of more scoring on the wings, in my estimation changes the dynamic of this club right away.
Gaudreau, Neal, Tkachuk, Lindholm as your top 6 wingers is great depth on the wings. Nice move and actually gives the Flames a legitimate top 6.
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07-02-2018, 02:21 PM
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#426
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
I did, and won a lot of money betting they would not make the playoffs. Is it really that bad to criticize certain moves? Maybe I will turn out to be wrong about this, it's just hockey and a nobody's opinion.
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well, the alternatives were:
1) sign Maroon
2) sign Neal
3) do nothing
i think 2 was the best option, improved the top 6, at a reasonable AAV, esp when you add in the fact that Neal has no NMC in his contract.
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07-02-2018, 02:21 PM
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#427
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing
Actually 42 games.
And this again means 7 players had more playoff goals than him in the last two playoffs combined. That's it.
Those 7: Guentzel, Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Crosby, Forsberg, Schiefele and Malkin.
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But he's played more games than most players those 2 years. I'm not saying he is a bad player, just that I think he is overrated, don&t know why that is such an outrageous opinion to have.
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07-02-2018, 02:24 PM
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#428
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
But he's played more games than most players those 2 years. I'm not saying he is a bad player, just that I think he is overrated, don&t know why that is such an outrageous opinion to have.
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It’s not outrageous, it’s just that the facts suggest otherwise.
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07-02-2018, 02:26 PM
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#429
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Overrated and has been pretty poor in the playoffs the past 2 seasons. The fact that 2 finalists decided to move on without him should be an indication.
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The same thing happened to Marian Hossa. Was he overrated?
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07-02-2018, 02:26 PM
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#430
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: I will never cheer for losses
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I'm a huge fan of this deal. Term is shorter than I expected and cheaper. Good work BT
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Originally Posted by Anduril
"Putting nets on puck."
- Ferland 2016
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07-02-2018, 02:30 PM
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#431
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
But he's played more games than most players those 2 years. I'm not saying he is a bad player, just that I think he is overrated, don&t know why that is such an outrageous opinion to have.
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It's not your opinion that's outrageous, it's your distortion of the facts. To say that Neal has been ‘pretty poor in the playoffs’ is a distortion, as he has been one of the leading goal scorers in the last two playoff runs. To say that two Stanley Cup finalists have ‘let him go’ is a distortion, as Nashville was only able to protect four forwards and Las Vegas offered him a contract on almost the same terms he accepted from Calgary.
As a wise man has said, you're entitled to your own opinion; you are not entitled to your own facts.
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07-02-2018, 02:30 PM
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#432
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Could Care Less
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Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
I did, and won a lot of money betting they would not make the playoffs. Is it really that bad to criticize certain moves? Maybe I will turn out to be wrong about this, it's just hockey and a nobody's opinion.
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It doesn’t matter. I’m just responding to your comment that you hope Neal does well. You don’t.
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07-02-2018, 02:34 PM
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#433
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by heep223
It doesn’t matter. I’m just responding to your comment that you hope Neal does well. You don’t.
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As G. K. Chesterton put it:
‘What is bad in the candid friend is simply that he is not candid. He is keeping something back – his own gloomy pleasure in saying unpleasant things.… He is an uncandid candid friend: the man who says, “I am sorry to say we are ruined,” and is not sorry at all.’
Seems to me we have a few of those among the CP regulars.
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07-02-2018, 02:36 PM
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#434
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
I did, and won a lot of money betting they would not make the playoffs. Is it really that bad to criticize certain moves? Maybe I will turn out to be wrong about this, it's just hockey and a nobody's opinion.
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Of course it's not wrong, and our opinions mean nothing in the end too, but a lot of us just simply disagree with your first statement.
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07-02-2018, 02:38 PM
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#435
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
Overrated and has been pretty poor in the playoffs the past 2 seasons. The fact that 2 finalists decided to move on without him should be an indication.
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Whenever another team has a good signing or trade, someone always has to wonder why the Flames weren't involved.
On the flip side, whenever Flames have make a good signing, someone always has to wonder why the original team didn't re-sign.
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07-02-2018, 02:43 PM
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#436
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Geeoff
The same thing happened to Marian Hossa. Was he overrated?
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Well that’s just because his teammates complained about his gross skin allergy issues. Totally different scenario
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07-02-2018, 02:44 PM
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#437
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by the2bears
Whenever another team has a good signing or trade, someone always has to wonder why the Flames weren't involved.
On the flip side, whenever Flames have make a good signing, someone always has to wonder why the original team didn't re-sign.
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Vegas did purportedly offer 5x5 as per 960. So they tried, but he wanted the extra on the open market looks like.
Also he sounds like he genuinely thinks the flames have a shot in the next couple years with the pieces here. Didn't come across to me as the standard tire pumping by new players, he seems like an intelligent guy coming off three contending teams that sees those things in this group.
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07-02-2018, 02:46 PM
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#438
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Check these out on Mike Smith's friendship with Neal 
Check out @AAVickers’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/AAVickers/status...180446721?s=01
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07-02-2018, 02:47 PM
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#439
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by WCW Nitro
I did, and won a lot of money betting they would not make the playoffs. Is it really that bad to criticize certain moves? Maybe I will turn out to be wrong about this, it's just hockey and a nobody's opinion.
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How did you win a “lot of money” on that bet? Did you find morons to bet with who screwed up and gave you silly odds? Betting against the Flames to make the playoffs shouldn’t have been that outrageous of a bet.
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07-02-2018, 02:50 PM
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#440
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
Vegas did purportedly offer 5x5 as per 960. So they tried, but he wanted the extra on the open market looks like.
Also he sounds like he genuinely thinks the flames have a shot in the next couple years with the pieces here. Didn't come across to me as the standard tire pumping by new players, he seems like an intelligent guy coming off three contending teams that sees those things in this group.
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Oh I know, I was just making the point that no matter what the Flames do, someone will always question it and find a negative view of it.
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