[Rumour] Flames closing in on Maroon?

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I am just curious what the AAV would be for Maroon. Other than that, I don't worry about how he will fit on the Flames.



What I don't think, however, is that he is going to be some kind of a deterrent for the Flames. He is a rough and tumble guy, but I don't think people are afraid of fighting him.


What he does bring is a nice set of hands and a good brain. He can work with top players. He is a strong complimentary player - nothing wrong with that. He also goes to the net hard and makes life for the opposing goalies miserable. That's a GLARING hole for the Flames. Between him and Tkachuk, that opposing net would become a whole lot unfriendlier.


Again, for me it all comes down to term and dollars, but from a purely 'how does he fit' standpoint, I think he fits extremely well.

I think for most this would be the case though. Not to put you on the spot, rather just because I am interested what do you think would be a threshold for fair dollar value on say a 3 year deal? And then on a 4 year deal?

[CaptainYooh]

Honestly, I wish Treliving just signs Maroon for $4M or so. At least we will have a big capable forward to support Gaudreau and Monahan. This is the best we can have of what’s left out there, realistically.

I don’t buy this “doesn’t wanna play here” stuff. These are proud professional players. If signed, he will play here. Of course, there are always bad exceptions (e.g. Brouwer), but hopefully, not Maroon. He plays with a lot of passion.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Samonadreau

I think for most this would be the case though. Not to put you on the spot, rather just because I am interested what do you think would be a threshold for fair dollar value on say a 3 year deal? And then on a 4 year deal?

I wouldn't want him on a 4 year deal - I think only players that are core or young up and coming players that seem to be trending to core pieces should be signed for 4 years or longer.


For 3 years, I would be happy with 3.5AAV, or even pushing it to 4. Anything over that and I think it stops making sense.

[wired]

Maroon at 3.5 to 4 million per year? Wow, prices sure go up in July. I though the guy was semi useless....sure he plays with his heart on his sleeve, but really? Pay me 400k and ill flop on the ice and block shots.
Anyone playing with Conner McJesus would get points.

[Nelson]

I don’t want the Flames to overpay for a FA, including Maroon. Sign Shore for very little and be done with it!

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I wouldn't want him on a 4 year deal - I think only players that are core or young up and coming players that seem to be trending to core pieces should be signed for 4 years or longer.


For 3 years, I would be happy with 3.5AAV, or even pushing it to 4. Anything over that and I think it stops making sense.

See that's still a little high for me. But when I stop and really think about it I think it would be easier to slightly overpay for Maroon if we weren't already weighed down by a horrible Brouwer contract who is at this point a worse Maroon. Honestly if we didn't have Brouwer on the books I would say 3x4M?..... Giver let's do.

It's been a good, not great, but good July1 I think and unless you can get a really reasonable price on Maroon you have to walk away and try to allow for some growth from within.

That's why my number is going to be a 2 x 3M or a 3 x 2.5M. Which I fully expect to not be close to enough to get him to sign in Calgary. Which is also ok.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by wired

Maroon at 3.5 to 4 million per year? Wow, prices sure go up in July. I though the guy was semi useless....sure he plays with his heart on his sleeve, but really? Pay me 400k and ill flop on the ice and block shots.
Anyone playing with Conner McJesus would get points.

He did well in NJ

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by dino7c

He did well in NJ

And in Anaheim.

[Poe969]

Is this still an option after signing Neal? I wouldn't mind it but I think they'd have to move at least one body out but I think it would still be a good option.

[mrdonkey]

Originally Posted by Poe969

Is this still an option after signing Neal? I wouldn't mind it but I think they'd have to move at least one body out but I think it would still be a good option.

I'd assume it's still on the table but it would have to be for less than $4 million and would probably necessitate a Brouwer buyout.

[Poe969]

I don't think they can buy out Brouwer anymore. That rash he has does look pretty serious though.

[CaptainYooh]

Looks like Maroon was a backup scenario in case Neal's signing didn't work out. With only $12.8M left in cap space and two big signings forthcoming (Tkachuk, Lindholm), we can't afford Maroon anymore without some subtractions. Still would be nice though!

[Heavy Jack]

lol could you imagine if we did buyout brouwer and flipped Frolik+Stone for Futures before signing Maroon?

Gaudreau ~ Monahan ~ Lindholm
Tkachuk ~ Backlund ~ Neal
Bennett ~ Ryan ~ Maroon
Mangiapane ~ Jankowski ~ Czarnik
Foo, Hathaway

Giordano ~ Brodie
Hanifin ~ Hamonic
Kulak ~ Andersson
Prout

Smith
Rittich/Gillies

That wouldn't even be fair and I still think after this year it would get really complicated in terms of cap structure but still that is a fun line-up to look at.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by CaptainYooh

Looks like Maroon was a backup scenario in case Neal's signing didn't work out. With only $12.8M left in cap space and two big signings forthcoming (Tkachuk, Lindholm), we can't afford Maroon anymore without some subtractions. Still would be nice though!

If anything maroon over played his cards. he had an offer from flames but was waiting to see what stlouis would do. Works out better for flames.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

...Works out better for flames.

I'd really love to see Maroon instead of Frolik on line 2.

[browna]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

If anything maroon over played his cards. he had an offer from flames but was waiting to see what stlouis would do. Works out better for flames.

Maybe Neal was the guy the Flames had an offer out to, not Maroon?
Would really need a clearing of the decks to bring him on as well now.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

I think it was Neal vs Maroon. Obviously Neal is superior and presumably we offered quite a bit more to him than we'd be prepared to pay Maroon. If you look at our cap there's no way we can add Maroon now. But I'd rather have Neal anyways.

Treliving as usual leaving no stone unturned. Looks like he's been attacking the trade market and free agent market hard in the past month.

[tkflames]

Originally Posted by Poe969

plus, it's not as easy as just saying "sign Neal instead" because the player has to want to come here. If Neal has no interest in coming to the Flames, it won't matter. It's like if the Flames offered 13 mil per to Tavares, the player goes where the player wants.

Take it back!!!

[activeStick]

Now let's move Brouwer and then sign Maroon as replacement!

[bcneil]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Now let's move Brouwer and then sign Maroon as replacement!

Nobody wants him and it's too late for this years buyout.
But can't we still sign Maroon. Then buyout Brouwer next summer?