Like you guys are absolutely setting yourselves up to be disappointed.
I want nothing to do with Reaves because he is a terrible hockey player, but if you guys think he's going to help the Flames deal with somebody like McDavid, you're going to hate Reaves when he does none of those things, and you're going to be the most vocal about it.
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I think Reaves had a pretty big impact in that Jets series.
Not even Big Buff wanted to mess with him and when they met on the ice with some clean checking it seemed to me like Buff was looking over his shoulder alot.
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I get that people want Brouwer off the team but at this point is his cap hit really hurting the club, apart from preventing them from overpaying a different UFA?
I would not have been a fan of giving up an asset to move him to Vegas. This organization continues to be in the bottom third of the league in terms of overall assets. We can't be giving up more.
As for Reaves. Not a fan. Would rather these type of players are out of the game completely let alone on the team I cheer for.
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Like you guys are absolutely setting yourselves up to be disappointed.
I want nothing to do with Reaves because he is a terrible hockey player, but if you guys think he's going to help the Flames deal with somebody like McDavid, you're going to hate Reaves when he does none of those things, and you're going to be the most vocal about it.
Talk about a narrative. You've played this whole thing out in your mind? It's been suggested Reaves may have an interesting impact on the games with the Oilers, but is anyone really suggesting he's the answer?
are we really talking about Reaves as a solution for Connor McDavid?
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If Reeves is out when McDavid is out we have a problem. That problem is going to be when McDavid zooms by and scores.
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Reaves is never going to even get close to McDavid.
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Lol, that is what I was thinking. It would be a mismatch to have him on the ice against McDavid unless you were down some huge amount.
My point wasn’t (as I specifically said in my post) wasn’t that reaves would run around after McDavid. Of course you keep him away from McDavid. My point is that Hamonic, Gio, Tkachuk etc do it. But if they do you have to be prepared for Lucic, Nurse, etc to respond. That is when a guy like Reaves will be valuable.
There are 3 reasons that Reaves does not fight at lot.
1) There are not a lot of guys in the league that want to stage a fight with him... Ferland, Hathaway, Glass, Hamonic, Stone would go out of their way to avoid a fight with him.
2) He is not a a-hole. He does not go around challenging benches or promising revenge or gooning. He does not stage fights. There is always a hit that triggers his fights and when he fights he destroys... He throws bombs
3) He just hurts players making hockey plays. He skates well enough to create havoc and get the hit on the guy that needs tuning. He makes 3-4 hits in his 8 minutes of ice time against players who are trying to avoid getting hit by him.
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The Death Star never survives a single movie because it's fundamentally flawed. Just like Ryan Reaves.
If someone screws with Johnny, some else who can play hockey should cross check that guy really hard in that space between the elbow pads and the shoulder pads. Break his arm, I don't care. Regehr/Hudler the guy.
We should then kill that penalty and move on with our lives.
Except no one on the team does. Which is precisely why we need a guy like Reaves.
You mean the guy who played 7 minutes a game in that series? Your not going to convince me that Reaves played a big part in the Knight's success last season. He played in half the team's playoff games and played the least amount of minutes when he was in the line up.
The Knights were crushing teams in the playoffs and all season long before they even acquired him at the trade deadline. The Flames don't need more bruisers who sit in the box for half the game, they need goal scorers.
If you think Reaves' contribution can be measured in TOI, I don't know what to say to you.
And I don't know how anyone could have watched this year's playoffs and not think that Reaves was a significant contributor to the Knights' success. He had a fantastic playoffs. Trying to minimize it by quoting stats (that don't apply anyway) is just a really bad take.
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Like you guys are absolutely setting yourselves up to be disappointed.
I want nothing to do with Reaves because he is a terrible hockey player, but if you guys think he's going to help the Flames deal with somebody like McDavid, you're going to hate Reaves when he does none of those things, and you're going to be the most vocal about it.
I swear someone pisses in your cereal every morning.
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If you think Reaves' contribution can be measured in TOI, I don't know what to say to you.
And I don't know how anyone could have watched this year's playoffs and not think that Reaves was a significant contributor to the Knights' success. He had a fantastic playoffs. Trying to minimize it by quoting stats (that don't apply anyway) is just a really bad take.
I dunno, if he was that important why would he be scratched in game 5 of the cup finals.. The final game of the year? Sure he may have provided some spark but guys were still running the Vegas stars and skating away and ignoring Reaves. Such is the new NHL.
Like you guys are absolutely setting yourselves up to be disappointed.
I want nothing to do with Reaves because he is a terrible hockey player, but if you guys think he's going to help the Flames deal with somebody like McDavid, you're going to hate Reaves when he does none of those things, and you're going to be the most vocal about it.
It does make sense that those who have high hopes for someone to do well would be the most upset when they don’t. That’s, like, a people thing.
So we need Reaves to deal with Lucic, who the Oilers would get rid of in a heartbeat, who plays on one of the worst teams in the league?
We had no answer for Lucic last year, he just did whatever he wanted and we had to hope the refs would keep him in line (they didn't). The only one who stood up to him was Glass and he got his arse handed to him, besides, we really don't want Glass in the lineup. Smith got fed up and took a shot at Lucic but obviously we don't want that happening often. Hell we didn't really have an answer for that goof Kassian either. If a guy like Reeves can keep those meatheads in line without hurting the team I'm open to it.
That's a lot of punching to the back of the head and neck. Pretty dirty. Even UFC doesn't allow strikes to the back of the head.
This is coming from someone who has been in a lot of hockey fights over 30 years of playing and most of those hits are because guys are tucking their chin. Their head is up when he swings but they aren’t stupid and they tuck their chin so the punches bounce off the helmet. The only difference here is other tough guys don’t punch because they don’t want to break their hands, Reeves obviously doesn’t care.
On a related note all those hits were clean and huge.
13 pages commenting on Ryan Reaves. We are getting desperate for anything. I hope the Flames are really serious in acquiring players who can help the team to win, and this player is not Ryan Reaves.
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I swear someone pisses in your cereal every morning.
I know this forum hates dissenting opinions as seen by any thread where anybody goes against the groupthink, but I like my track record here and will stand by everything I've said. I'm not going to mock other posters for having different opinions, but you can say whatever you want.
I would have thought that after the Brouwer signing thread, this forum would be a little kinder to those who don't agree with every move, however. That is truly a black mark on the board.
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