[Trade] Elias Lindholm + Noah Hanifin to Flames for D. Hamilton, Micheal Ferland, & Adam Fox

[868904]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I’d really like it if Tre could clear out one more Dman to make room for Andersson, he’s ready. Trading Brodie now would be selling low and I need to see Brodano again. If Hamonic or Stone could be traded for something of quality I’d love a D corps of:

Gio-Brodie
Hanifin-Stone/Hamonic
Kulak-Andersson

With Valimaki and Kylington as dark horses to steal a spot in camp.

Why do you need to clear space out? You need 7 defenceman. If Anderson is as good as hope he is, he will force Stone to the press box.

You keep Stone around in case any of the top 4 get injured.

[Corral]

Those of us who have been driving the Get Rid of Hamilton wagon for a couple years now, can just sit back and smile.


The clincher has to have been the sour grapes from him when Freddie was dealt to Arizona. It was so obvious in how he so poorly handled media questions on it.


Good riddance.

[FiveSeven]

Don't want to throw any more shade on the guy, but my friend is friends with Dougie.
With that being said, the speculation is not unwarranted. He's a good person, but hard to get along with for various reasons.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I really like the players we got.

I really don't like what we gave up.

I really hope it works out.

I'm off to Costco to grab a hot dog to feel better.

That's where I am. I like the two players, I don't like the trade.

I'm not going to Costco though.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by jg13

Gaudreau - 24
Monahan - 23
Lindholm - 23
Jankowski - 23
Hanifin - 21
Andersson - 21
Tkachuk - 20
Valimaki - 19

Sam Bennett is 22.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

To be fair, people were arguing your perceived misuse of the term 50/50.

No. It was a clear hose job to undermine one persons opinion. There was ZERO harm in what i said and somehow managed to summon the trolls from under the bridge to flex their mental muscle and act superior.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by nik-

Yeah but media day is just a bunch of reporters asking cliche'd questions anyway. The media is this town is just still super salty about it.

Kipper did the same thing btw.

Sorry but as a guy that was a major part of the team who failed miserably, he was just as responsible to answer the tough questions as his teammates were.

They all manned up and did so...where was he? There are obviously some character issues of some sort around the guy and this is but one example. Whether or not you put a lot of stock into such things or not is irrelevant. His management team certainly does.

there is a reason he has been dealt twice before age 25 when some consider him a franchise type defenseman. Hard to argue that its because of whatever it is with him that happens behind the scenes.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

When I read this I think Tre is saying other players on the team have given Tre dirt on Hamilton's off-ice lifestyle and perhaps indications of his attitude or outlook on life. The reason he won't divulge information is that he doesn't want his players to feel they can't trust him with things they tell him in confidence.

I think that's more him saying, in response to a direct question about the locker room, that he doesn't talk about the locker room, but they take everything into consideration.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

To me, the Flames need a more potent offense. Elias Lindholm doesn't scream "potent" to me. He's a guy who I'd love to play on the second line unless the Flames got a guy like van Riemsdyk to play on the left side to shift Tkachuk to the right.

I think Brad will further address our forward group with one more top 6 winger this summer. I don't think it would be Van Riemsdyk though as he had Calgary on his no trade list.

[Badgers Nose]

In BT we trust.

… I don't like the coach
… I don't like this trade


In BT we trust, so I will wait until December to really get on him.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Owen15

Fox’s concern about his competition on the Flames was most concerning to me.

he'll be equally happy in Carolina then. Hamilton, Faulk, Slavin, Pesce, Bean, Fleury, McKeown ...

[nik-]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Sorry but as a guy that was a major part of the team who failed miserably, he was just as responsible to answer the tough questions as his teammates were.

They all manned up and did so...where was he? There are obviously some character issues of some sort around the guy and this is but one example. Whether or not you put a lot of stock into such things or not is irrelevant. His management team certainly does.

there is a reason he has been dealt twice before age 25 when some consider him a franchise type defenseman. Hard to argue that its because of whatever it is with him that happens behind the scenes.

Why? Answer the tough questions? They're not tough questions, they're just the same questions over and over leading to the same boring answers over and over and they really don't do anything to make the team better, which is all that matters.

Again, Kipper did the same thing, people didn't seem to mind much then, other than media types.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Flames are a little short in the truculence department now. Need a Ferland replacement, albeit for the third/fourth line.

Lomberg is likely the closet comparable in the system, but lacks size.

[blankall]

Wonder if there were issues between Gaudreau and Hamilton. Hanifin is from Boston and went to Boston College. Maybe this is a move to appease Gaudreau.

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

Don't want to throw any more shade on the guy, but my friend is friends with Dougie.
With that being said, the speculation is not unwarranted. He's a good person, but hard to get along with for various reasons.

Like what?

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

I really like the players we got.

I really don't like what we gave up.

I really hope it works out.

I'm off to Costco to grab a hot dog to feel better.

My question would then be...how do you acquire the two players you like without giving something you don't like giving up?

Seems impossible...no?

[edn88]

I think that this is a good hockey trade. I liked Hamilton and Ferland, but I get what the Flames are doing. Not surprised to hear Fox was not signing here (honestly was surprised Johnny signed here - he was pretty close to being a free agent and signing where ever he wanted). I think that Ferland was going to demand more money than he was worth based on his recent performance. I hope that the RFA thing isn't a problem for new guys and they are both signed to reasonable deals ASAP.

[OminousFlames]

Maybe we'll look at this trade one year from now and wonder how we fleeced Carolina so badly.. A complete opposite from the Hamonic deal where everyone was all high in praise about the trade(at the time of the trade).

[browna]

Originally Posted by transplant99

No it isn't.

He missed media day and certainly took undisciplined penalties. Just facts.

And Freddie played 42 games here over 2 seasons, never getting sent back down to Stockton to get playing time. He was here then only to be Dougie’s safety blanket. When Treliving cut the cord and remove that distraction and excuse from the room around New Years, Hamilton hasn’t wanted to talk about it.

[Kybb79]

Lindholm had 1 goal from Feb to the last game of the season. What a great trade.