[Trade] Elias Lindholm + Noah Hanifin to Flames for D. Hamilton, Micheal Ferland, & Adam Fox

[Muta]

[mdubz]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Hamilton is a franchise defenseman

Hanifin might be, and had better be if the Flames want to have any chance of competing in the future.

I feel so bad for Gaudreau and Monahan who have to waste away their careers until UFA

Why isn’t this troll banned yet?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by DomeFoam

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Adam Fox is on track to be a great NHL player. Flames have done a lot of work in trying to gauge his desire to be a Flame down the road. Clearly they got the indication Fox wasn't crazy about coming to Calgary.

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Adam Fox will go back to Harvard this season for his junior year but this trade from CGY to CAR enhances the likelihood of him turning pro after this coming season.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

Incorrect. He was fourth in icetime amonst defencemen.

But then again he's young and improving. Give it 3-5 years and I really think people will look back and laugh at the reactions in this thread. This could be a huge step forward for this organization.

Yeah I think that's the plan. But short term this is a downgrade.



Hanifin had 4th most ice time in total but that's because he played PP. His 5v5 icetime was around 17min/game.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

There's reason to believe based on previous comments by Rod Brind'Amour that the prior Carolina head coach was misusing Lindholm and that he has untapped potential. So there's that. Lindholm just needed to get away from Bill Pet-wait



Why not? Aho and Teravainen can set up a sniper like him just fine. He has the speed, skill, size, and discipline teams covet. I wouldn't be surprised if he became a perennial 30g guy.

Those guys are wingers. Last I looked Lindholm was between them. I believe they will play on a line with Falk.

[ricosuave]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

https://twitter.com/user/status/1010581095803322368

Makes you wonder what the problem was with Hamilton.

wow.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Madman

This is the best and most accurate calm down and breathe for second assessment of the trade.

It's because I woke up to the news and had to wade through the thread first while ranting with friends and family to calm down...

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

There's reason to believe based on previous comments by Rod Brind'Amour that the prior Carolina head coach was misusing Lindholm and that he has untapped potential. So there's that. Lindholm just needed to get away from Bill Pet-wait...

Yeah, let’s take coaching advice from Rod Brind’Amour. He of 0-games head-coaching experience.

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by codynw

I don't really care what Hamilton did at age 21. Today, right now, Hamilton is the better defenceman and Calgary isn't in a position where they should be trading good players for potential.

I'm not going to continue to research for you, you can keep looking at the stats and see for yourself if your interested. All signs point to Hanifin being better.

What you're not taking into consideration is the fact that Calgary has been pretty open about wanting to trade Dougie for months now, which would indicate there's something fishy behind the scenes. This wasnt just a hockey trade for "fun" there's some underlying issues that we may or may not ever become privy to.

[Hey Connor, It's Mess]

Well I hope Lindholm and Hanifin enjoyed having Peters as their coach in Carolina, because surprise!

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GoJetsGo

Still not buying your assertion Peters somehow held him back in any way.

Not my assertion, it was Rod Brind'Amour's.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

https://twitter.com/user/status/1010590465307992064

Peters admits that this will see Brodie back with Gio and NH with Hamonic.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

https://twitter.com/user/status/1010581095803322368

Makes you wonder what the problem was with Hamilton.

I don't think there's anything wrong with him. Which is exactly why everybody wants him. He has an amazing contract as well.

I guarantee you Carolina will trade him during the last year of his contract.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Sounds like he may have been a bit of a loner and the team didn't think he was always giving his best? Really hard to say but Hanafin isn't chopped liver so it's not like the team is going from say Taylor Hall to Adam Larsson talent disparity.

I don’t buy the loner thing, he seemed engaged with teammates in public at least, charity events, photobombing everything, being one of the handful of guys that show up in the ugly sweater kind of things

[Zulu29]

Originally Posted by ricosuave

wow.

Any way you could quote what was said?

[iLoveLamp]

Originally Posted by Dajazz

Wow, Brad - you lost me there.

Ferland, Hamilton AND Fox..?! For a middle six winger and a decent defender who could - wait for it - become Hamilton.

Unless Hanifin becomes the next Pronger Tre got robbed. Even if he becomes as good as Hamilton Fox + Ferland > Lindholm.

Wow. Just wow. I kept looking for "and a 2019 first round pick".

In what world is Fox + Ferland > Lindholm?

A guy who was carried by Johnny and Mony to a 20 goal season, he wouldn't have hit 20 points if he wasn't playing with them. Plus Fox probably wasn't even going to sign here, so trading those two specifically for Lindholm is a win for Calgary

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Those guys are wingers. Last I looked Lindholm was between them. I believe they will play on a line with Falk.

Aho is a center.

[djsFlames]

I see this as an initial loss that could very well end up being a big win if the players coming in fill out their ceilings and Ferland fizzles out like he did without star players and fox ends up being a tough sign which he very well could be.

Carolina doesn't have the kind of players that will elevate Ferland like mony and Johnny did here. Which is why it was silly to add him specifically, since he's much more useful as a flame.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by troutman

Don’t like losing Fox, but maybe he wasn’t going to sign.

Ferland might be one more concussion away from retirement. I worried about his health and hope he avoids that.

I think Dougie was about to explode with more PP focus this year.

Agreed on Fox

Agreed on Ferland's concussions

Agreed on Dougie

Dont mind Hannafin. Dont mind Lindholm

But i think we gave up too much in the trade

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Zulu29

Any way you could quote what was said?

Flames have been trying to move dougie for 18-20 months if you listen to some sources.