2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Sounds like lots of smoke around Hayes. Larry brooks article:

https://nypost.com/2018/06/16/inside...draft-at-hand/

From that article,

The Rangers don’t seem keen on including Hayes in a deal to move up a few spots in the first round. The inference is that if he’s moved, it would be as the centerpiece as a deal to add a righty defenseman. Winnipeg’s Jacob Trouba seems out of reach, but the Flames could be make for an interesting match. There seems to be little interest in dealing for Dougie Hamilton, but, and we have made this point before, the Blueshirts might be able to get Adam Fox, the Harvard defenseman who paired with lefty prospect Ryan Lindgren for Team USA at the past two World Junior tournaments.

Again a LH shot but he could really solidify the C spot if not be used as a RW with Gaudreau and Monahan.

That's a really interesting proposal and even though IMO Fox has the highest ceiling among the Flames D prospects, a deal you would have to look very closely at.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

So the Habs would not have done a Bennet for Galchenyuk? I'll answer - no, they would not.
It's fine to say/think/hope Bennett has more potential, but in 4th season after draft Galchenyuk scored 30 goals plays center and Bennet scored 11 from the wing.
You're 100% right though. Flames need Bennett to reach the potential he is/was thought to have because a trade would definitely be a loss at this point.

And Domi scored 9 in his third season..... not sure what your point is on the goals scored.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)

When the hell did Bennett play with backlund and frolik?.

In his rookie year.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by transplant99

That's a really interesting proposal and even though IMO Fox has the highest ceiling among the Flames D prospects, a deal you would have to look very closely at.

I dunno I think Valimaki has top pairing upside. Fox likely more of a 2nd pairing PP specialist upside IMO. I see Valimaki as being a complete tier above the rest of our prospect dmen in terms of upside but maybe that’s just me.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by rhino

And Domi scored 9 in his third season..... not sure what your point is on the goals scored.

Not sure I understand. You don't know the difference between 11 and 30 goals?

[RichKlit]

[QUOTE=The Cobra;6710682]I’d prefer they keep him and if it bothers you so much, you can stop reading CP.

I’d hate to think the Flames were making hockey decisions based entirely on your ability to withstand what’s written on CP.


Lol. I hope their not making decisions on my ability to withstand anything. I’m simply stating my opinion like everyone else on here. If you don’t like that your free to stop reading my posts, quoting me and responding to me.

It’s awesome you want to keep him, that’s your opinion. Your more than welcome to do anything you want.

[rhino]

Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce

Not sure I understand. You don't know the difference between 11 and 30 goals?

My point is Montreal traded a guy who scored 30 for a guy who scored 9, so why wouldn’t they have done a deal for Bennett?

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by transplant99

From that article,



Again a LH shot but he could really solidify the C spot if not be used as a RW with Gaudreau and Monahan.

That's a really interesting proposal and even though IMO Fox has the highest ceiling among the Flames D prospects, a deal you would have to look very closely at.

it would be an interesting deal that i think you'd have to consider.

Fox could be great, but he's still a prospect, so there's some unknown there...add to that, there's still a question of whether he'll sign in Calgary. Hayes is a good young player and he's buddies with Gaudreau from their BU days and playing on the US national team together...i'd prefer swapping out Ksylington for Fox though

i wonder what it would take to pry out one of NYR's 1st rounders as part of the deal?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Sounds like lots of smoke around Hayes. Larry brooks article:

https://nypost.com/2018/06/16/inside...draft-at-hand/

Absolutely no interest in Hayes. We need a top line RS RW, not a LS C who is not an upgrade on either Monahan or Backlund. I know he has played some RW but I don't see him as a real upgrade over Ferland so why pay a costly price for him? I would rather package up more assets to get a true RS RW.

[dammage79]

Fox is the easier to move IMO. He's going to garner a ton of interest and because of his 50/50 chance to go UFA, easiest to swallow.

Hopefully Treliving comes up with a heck of a deal. Not super keen on Hayes.

[Jiri Hrdina]

On what basis are we saying it’s 50/50 whether he signs?

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

On what basis are we saying it’s 50/50 whether he signs?

Coin flip. On what Basis do you have that the percentage is greater than that?

[Wolfman]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

On what basis are we saying it’s 50/50 whether he signs?

Either he signs or he doesn't.

[VilleN]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Coin flip. On what Basis do you have that the percentage is greater than that?

How is it a coin flip? Don’t most players sign with the team that drafted them?


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[the2bears]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Coin flip. On what Basis do you have that the percentage is greater than that?

Seriously, he may sign after his third year, after his fourth year, or not at all.


So, 2/3rds chance he signs on that basis.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Coin flip. On what Basis do you have that the percentage is greater than that?

- Conroy's comments about the kid wanting to play one more year is a big one. It wasn't a waffly see where it goes kind of thing, it was one more year. He can only sign with Calgary after one more year.
- Kid has been all in at development camps
- Kid has been very talkative about working with the Flames on his development

That pushes 50.50 to 90.10 in my mind

[stang]

Originally Posted by rhino

My point is Montreal traded a guy who scored 30 for a guy who scored 9, so why wouldn’t they have done a deal for Bennett?

Seriously? Domis worst season is still better then Bennett’s best season. That’s why.

[Yrebmi]

Sam is young. Sam lost a development year to a shoulder injury. Sam hasn't had great line mates. Sam needs a chance with a different coaching staff. It has all been said - several times. It has indeed gotten old, but no less true.

Remember when so many posters were so insistent in so many threads that we cut bait with Jankowski while there was still value to be had? He at least had the advantage of the minors and less scrutiny.

I eagerly anticipate Sam Bennett to have his break out year and similarly hush folks.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Seriously, he may sign after his third year, after his fourth year, or not at all.


So, 2/3rds chance he signs on that basis.

Still 50/50. I don't understand how the time when he signs with the Flames if at all makes any difference. It's either or.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Bingo

- Conroy's comments about the kid wanting to play one more year is a big one. It wasn't a waffly see where it goes kind of thing, it was one more year. He can only sign with Calgary after one more year.
- Kid has been all in at development camps
- Kid has been very talkative about working with the Flames on his development

That pushes 50.50 to 90.10 in my mind

That's fine. I just see it differently. I will ask though on points 2 and 3. No matter if he signs or not, why wouldn't a player be all in at an NHL development camp? His hockey career is still on the line whether he signs here or not. So that argument still doesn't make a lot of sense.

I just don't understand how 50/50 is a bad thing at this point. And trying to bump up the chance he signs in Calgary based on essentially nothing is even stranger. All I'm saying is it is still a coin flip. Anything more than that is just hopeful enthusiasm, which isn't a bad thing.

I flat out do not know which way Fox goes. Nor do any other of us fans.

What I do know is people want fox, he has trade value and Can be used a nice chip to get what you want.

You brought up your ranked list order of D prospects yesterday and had Fox at the top of Do not trade.

I get it. But I disagree, Kylington and Andersson and Valimaki are equally on top of the do not trade list with fox on the outside.