06-07-2018, 09:38 PM
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#13601
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Franchise Player
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Leading goal scorer of his draft year...sounds elite to me
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06-07-2018, 10:09 PM
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#13602
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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48 hours til the buy out window!!!!
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06-07-2018, 10:14 PM
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#13603
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
48 hours til the buy out window!!!!
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Does that mean we don't ever have to see Troy Brouwer in Flames silks ever again? Please baby Jesus!
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06-07-2018, 10:16 PM
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#13604
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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So many great stories on the caps roster. Hard not to be happy for any one of them.
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"Everybody's so desperate to look smart that nobody is having fun anymore" -Jackie Redmond
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06-07-2018, 10:26 PM
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#13605
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Does that mean we don't ever have to see Troy Brouwer in Flames silks ever again? Please baby Jesus!
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Oh baby Jesus we dont ask for much!!! Just this one tiny tiny buy out!!!!
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06-07-2018, 10:39 PM
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#13606
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Ha ha ha this thread has gone full Oiler fan with the homerism. I’m out.
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Maybe do a better job defending your position next time?
Because, when your only argument is "I'm right because I say so and anyone who disagrees with me is an Oilers fan", it means you just got your ass handed to you in a debate.
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06-07-2018, 10:55 PM
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#13607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Can we get Andre Burakovsky? He is best friends with Rasmus after all.
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06-07-2018, 11:16 PM
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#13608
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
48 hours til the buy out window!!!!
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It's not until June 15th unfortunately.
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06-07-2018, 11:19 PM
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#13609
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bear
It's not until June 15th unfortunately.
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Pretty sure its 48 hours after the finals Finnish up, but I'm no expert thats 4 sure!
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06-07-2018, 11:22 PM
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#13610
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
Pretty sure its 48 hours after the finals Finnish up, but I'm no expert thats 4 sure!
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It's the latter of June 15th or 48 hours after the end of the Final. Therefore, this year, it's June 15th.
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06-07-2018, 11:25 PM
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#13611
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
It's the latter of June 15th or 48 hours after the end of the Final. Therefore, this year, it's June 15th.
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Ah, peas.
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06-07-2018, 11:26 PM
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#13612
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
It's the latter of June 15th or 48 hours after the end of the Final. Therefore, this year, it's June 15th.
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But...but that's a whole week away 
I guess troy gets to live in Calgary for another 7/8 days...
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06-07-2018, 11:32 PM
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#13613
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Franchise Player
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Is Monahan one of the 50 best players in the league? Those are your elite players IMO. Maybe even a smaller group than that.
He certainly has some of the best goal scoring skills in the league, especially among centers. But arguing over whether a player is elite or not is just arguing semantics.
What is better - elite or star?
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06-07-2018, 11:53 PM
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#13614
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Is Monahan one of the 50 best players in the league? Those are your elite players IMO. Maybe even a smaller group than that.
He certainly has some of the best goal scoring skills in the league, especially among centers. But arguing over whether a player is elite or not is just arguing semantics.
What is better - elite or star?
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Fair enough, but no matter what the description, Monahan has skills as good or better than Tkachuk, which was my point.
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06-08-2018, 12:09 AM
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#13615
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
Is Monahan one of the 50 best players in the league? Those are your elite players IMO. Maybe even a smaller group than that.
He certainly has some of the best goal scoring skills in the league, especially among centers. But arguing over whether a player is elite or not is just arguing semantics.
What is better - elite or star?
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"elite goal scorer"
was the argument...he obviously is
138 goals in his first 5 NHL seasons, far less than 50 active players can match that...maybe a handful
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06-08-2018, 12:11 AM
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#13616
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Fair enough, but no matter what the description, Monahan has skills as good or better than Tkachuk, which was my point.
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I think that’s a very good point. Monahan is more “elite” than Tkachuk as it stands today. One can certainly see Tkachuk’s trajectory but the point still stands.
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06-08-2018, 12:26 AM
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#13617
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
"elite goal scorer"
was the argument...he obviously is
138 goals in his first 5 NHL seasons, far less than 50 active players can match that...maybe a handful
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He was tied for 27th in goals in the NHL last year, tied for 36th, 38th, 12th and 77th the years before that. As you point out, he has been remarkably consistent since joining the league and was productive immediately.
When it comes to goal scorers, is he elite in that category of player? I am not going to jump all over someone who claims that Monahan’s production hasn’t yet risen to their definition of elite. I don’t see it to be quite as obvious as you do.
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06-08-2018, 12:35 AM
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#13618
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Strange Brew
He was tied for 27th in goals in the NHL last year,
When it comes to goal scorers, is he elite in that category of player?
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Playing through several injuries and with a brutally injured wrist.
But it's not just the number of goals, it's the deadly release, and his clear penchant for scoring big, game winning and OT goals. To the point where it's pronounced.
Semantics indeed, as is just about everything discussed about sports.
But the case for him being an elite scorer is a compelling one, and he's still growing his game with room to improve on already impressive top end numbers.
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06-08-2018, 12:39 AM
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#13619
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Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Calgary
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The term "elite" is overused. Monahan is great, but not elite
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06-08-2018, 12:42 AM
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#13620
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by savardandjokinen
The term "elite" is overused. Monahan is great, but not elite
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Once again, it's a subjective term, and overall, I'd say there are very few elite overall players in the game.
But if you read closer, he was being discussed as an elite goal scorer, which It think there's a very good case for.
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