2018 NFL thread

[puffnstuff]

Personally I think the answer is quit playing the anthem.

[GirlySports]

Get rid of extra points and kickoffs. Saves an hour.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Personally I think the answer is quit playing the anthem.

Well it's not the answer because it's not going to happen. This is a compromise but probably the best conclusion they could come up with. If you want to protest just stay in the locker room. It's really all up to the media as personally as a fan I don't follow sports to see or hear the political opinions of any athlete or coach so I don't really care if a player or two decides to stay in the locker room. As long as it doesn't disrupt team chemistry or become a distraction I don't care what any of these guys do within the law. However the media loves to make a big deal out of this stuff because they know it's clickbait for today's society who loves to be outraged.

[rubecube]

And unsurprisingly, all of those on the right who have been bitching about limitations on free speech/compelled speech are quiet on something that is pretty much a blatant example of it.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And unsurprisingly, all of those on the right who have been bitching about limitations on free speech/compelled speech are quiet on something that is pretty much a blatant example of it.

I think this is what my main problem with the whole situation is. These guys are doing an extremely peaceful protest that doesn't change how hard they play, but it's a big deal apparently?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

And unsurprisingly, all of those on the right who have been bitching about limitations on free speech/compelled speech are quiet on something that is pretty much a blatant example of it.

The players are free to say whatever they want when it’s not on company time. This really isn’t a free speech issue as there is no constitutional free speech in the workplace.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The players are free to say whatever they want when it’s not on company time. This really isn’t a free speech issue as there is no constitutional free speech in the workplace.

This is a good point, I guess it is considered company time. I only wish the players did more to warrant a reaction from the league. It seems like a pretty simple infraction to warrant possible fines and penalties, IMO.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

The players are free to say whatever they want when it’s not on company time. This really isn’t a free speech issue as there is no constitutional free speech in the workplace.

I mean I agree with that in principle, but if this was someone getting fired from their job or reprimanded for saying anti-gay or pro-life things, you know the right would be all over it as a free speech issue.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I mean I agree with that in principle, but if this was someone getting fired from their job or reprimanded for saying anti-gay or pro-life things, you know the right would be all over it as a free speech issue.

Why the #### is the right being cast as the pro-free-speech crowd? Why would you even permit that implication, much less proactively support it?

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Personally I think the answer is quit playing the anthem.

Yeah, I think so too. The "anthems before sporting events in major leagues that have nothing to do with country affiliation" doesn't make any sense anyway. But they're obviously not going to do that.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Why the #### is the right being cast as the pro-free-speech crowd? Why would you even permit that implication, much less proactively support it?

Uhhh...maybe check your reading comprehension on that one, dude. I'm suggesting that the right is completely disingenuous, hypocritical and self-serving when it comes to free speech.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by rubecube

I mean I agree with that in principle, but if this was someone getting fired from their job or reprimanded for saying anti-gay or pro-life things, you know the right would be all over it as a free speech issue.

I'm not so sure about that. I think you are underestimating people on the right. I think any employee needs to act responsible and be careful of what they say on their facebook pages or in the media if they like their job. I don't recall many crying for that woman in Saskatchewan that lost her job after melting down in that Denny's.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I'm not so sure about that. I think you are underestimating people on the right. I think any employee needs to act responsible and be careful of what they say on their facebook pages or in the media if they like their job. I don't recall many crying for that woman in Saskatchewan that lost her job after melting down in that Denny's.

No but they held rallies for the county clerk who refused to marry a gay couple. Do you honestly think the right would take it lying down if the NFL said they were going to impose penalties on any team or players caught praying on the field?

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by rubecube

No but they held rallies for the county clerk who refused to marry a gay couple. Do you honestly think the right would take it lying down if the NFL said they were going to impose penalties on any team or players caught praying on the field?

Would religious people in the US be happy? Probably not, but people will be inconsistent in applying laws and rules to others who support or oppose their view, it doesn't change anything about this case. The NFL absolutely has the right to stop players from kneeling, free speech is not absolute when you're there on your employers time and their platform. Especially if said speech is taking away revenue from your employer.

When I signed my fulltime offer after university there was a section in there that made me acknowledge that I was not authorized to comment publicly in any way about my employer. That ranged from news reports all the way down to message boards. That could be incorrectly construed as free speech restriction against me but these rights do not exist in the workplace.

[Senator Clay Davis]

So since the anthem is all sacred and all, will NFL teams be announcing they will not sell any concessions during say a five minute window when the anthem will happen so that everyone can focus solely on respecting the anthem? I actually almost wrote that whole thing without laughing believe it or not.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So since the anthem is all sacred and all, will NFL teams be announcing they will not sell any concessions during say a five minute window when the anthem will happen so that everyone can focus solely on respecting the anthem? I actually almost wrote that whole thing without laughing believe it or not.

I know when i attended a game in Charlotte, when the anthem started there was no sales of any kind....everything just stopped til it was over.

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

So since the anthem is all sacred and all, will NFL teams be announcing they will not sell any concessions during say a five minute window when the anthem will happen so that everyone can focus solely on respecting the anthem? I actually almost wrote that whole thing without laughing believe it or not.

49ers owner Jed York said the team will not sell concessions during the national anthem as part of a broader approach around the NFL's national anthem debate, reports ESPN.

“I don’t think we should profit during the national anthem if we’re going to ask people to be respectful," he said.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/05/23/49...-anthem-debate

[transplant99]

Crazy sad news....an absolute iconic moment in NFL history. Thinking back i am pretty sure Vin Scully was on the microphone to call it.

Former San Francisco 49ers receiver Dwight Clark, known for completing "The Catch" from Joe Montana in the 1981 NFC Championship Game against the Dallas Cowboys, passed away Monday at the age of 61 after a one-year battle with ALS.

Just a nasty nasty disease. Have lost two relatives to it over the years and i dont think they are any closer to any sort of treatment/cure.

https://www.tsn.ca/former-49ers-wr-c...t-61-1.1103292

[FLAMESRULE]

And it a complete shocker...not really...the orange goblin has canceled the Eagles white house visit. What a complete POS.

https://www.thescore.com/nfl/news/1553944

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Crazy sad news....an absolute iconic moment in NFL history. Thinking back i am pretty sure Vin Scully was on the microphone to call it.



Just a nasty nasty disease. Have lost two relatives to it over the years and i dont think they are any closer to any sort of treatment/cure.

https://www.tsn.ca/former-49ers-wr-c...t-61-1.1103292

His wife, Eddie DeBartolo, and Ronnie Lott (and Lott's wife) were with him today (in Whitefish) before he passed.

RIP #87

[Erick Estrada]

It wouldn't be an NFL offseason without a Patriot suspension;

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ame-suspension

In other news T.O. being T.O. and declining to attend the Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony;

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2...ction-ceremony

I get that he feels he should have been inducted earlier but him declining to attend pretty well reaffirms why voters took a few years to get over his selfishness as a player. A fitting way for him to ride into the sunset.