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In fact, Duplantis said that "if Jesus was physically on the Earth today, he wouldn't be riding a donkey."
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-31-2018, 11:32 AM
			
			
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			I know for a fact Jesus would be cruising the desert in one of these: 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-31-2018, 02:08 PM
			
			
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				I know for a fact Jesus would be cruising the desert in one of these: 
  
			
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At a sticker price of $615,000? Not likely.
 
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			05-31-2018, 02:19 PM
			
			
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			The question is can you put either of them on Pontius Auto-Pilate
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			05-31-2018, 02:24 PM
			
			
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				The question is can you put either of them on Pontius Auto-Pilate 
			
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I drive a Pontius Pilot.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			05-31-2018, 02:33 PM
			
			
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				At a sticker price of $615,000? Not likely. 
 
This is much more Jesus's speed: 
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Even I would consider becoming religious if my leader drove 6 wheels in the air.  Follow lame scooter Jesus?  No thanks.  It's all about being marketable.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 02:47 PM
			
			
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			Is Canada Losing Its Religion?
                           Secularization in the Great White North.        
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/b...g-its-religion
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				“Projections from our data indicate that there will be no members, attenders, or givers in the Anglican Church of Canada by approximately 2040.” 
 
 This dire pronouncement was recently declared by Canadian Reverend  Neil Elliot, an Anglican priest, and lead author of a new report  commissioned by the Anglican Church of Canada. 
 
While the Anglican Church of Canada had 1.3 million members back in  1961, it is now down to less than 360,000—and this decline has occurred  while Canada’s population significantly increased throughout those  decades, making such a drop in membership all the more precipitous. 
 
As is happening all over the world—from Uruguay to Japan, from the  Netherlands to New Zealand, and from Germany to South Korea—people in  Canada appear to be walking away from religion in numbers never seen  before. For example: 
 - In the 1960s, 50 percent of Canadians reported attending church on a weekly basis; by 2015, that was down to 10 percent.
 
- In 1971, only 4 percent of Canadians said that they had no religion, but today, that is up to 29 percent.
 
- In 2000, 70 percent of Canadians said that their religious beliefs were important to them; today, just under 50 percent say as much.
 
- In 2005, 81 percent of Canadians believed in God; that number had dropped down to 65 percent in 2016.
 
- Today, 64 percent of Canadians now agree that religion plays a less  important role in society than it did twenty years ago; 67 percent of  Canadians also now agree that it is not necessary to believe in God in  order to be moral and have good values; half of all Canadians today seldom or never go to church.
 
- Nearly 50 percent of those living in the province of British  Columbia, nearly 40 percent of those living in the province of Quebec,  and 35 percent of those living in the province of Alberta say that they  “prefer to live life without God or congregation." Such high rates of secularity are historically unprecedented.
 
 
			
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			11-29-2019, 02:52 PM
			
			
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yes, science and critical thinking are replacing religion in most advanced societies.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-29-2019, 02:55 PM
			
			
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I and my family have officially de-converted.
 
My last day of work at TWU is today.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:02 PM
			
			
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				I and my family have officially de-converted. 
 
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Whoa, have you completely de-converted to an atheistic state?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:09 PM
			
			
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I don't know. I find that I continue to have a difficult time saying that I am an atheist. I probably am—at least functionally (but I think the joke in there is that all of us are basically functionally atheists). I am probably an atheist in that I see no good evidence for the existence of a god, but I am completely open to the possibility of a god.
 
We still have not told most of our families and friends. A select few know, and we continue to worry about fallout. This has certainly put a hitch in my own vocation.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:12 PM
			
			
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In 2005, 81 percent of Canadians believed in God;  that number had dropped down to 65 percent in 2016.
Although that's a healthy drop it still seems high.Id bet a healthy percentage of the 65% are agnostic.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:13 PM
			
			
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			anecdote time, I'm 31 and the only time i have ever been to church is when i slept over at a friends house on a saturday when i was a kid and went with their family. the extent of my parents' religiosity was telling me to not say the lords name in vain if i said god damn until was probably like 12 years old. my wife was the same way
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:14 PM
			
			
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			This has generally been my own path of de-conversion from a strain of Evangelical Christianity as I became more and more skeptical and finally disbelieving of the modernist urge for evangelicals to back up all their ridiculous claims with biblical truth that, as it turns out, has no basis in reality. 
 
 I am actually quite certain I would still be practicing if I had been raised a type of Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. There is something far more anti-fragile about those churches and their fascination with the mysteries of human existence.  
 
I have become more atheist in my behaviour - taking sole responsibility for my actions, examining them through a lens of personal ethics, and behaving in a way that aligns with humanist expectations 
 
That said, I am still not satisfied with positivist explanations for our existence either. I remain, and probably always will remain, an agnostic.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:14 PM
			
			
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				I don't know. I find that I continue to have a difficult time saying that I am an atheist. I probably am—at least functionally (but I think the joke in there is that all of us are basically functionally atheists). I am probably an atheist in that I see no good evidence for the existence of a god, but I am completely open to the possibility of a god. 
 
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If you dont mind the ask...was there a specific turning or tipping point, or was it just a time-driven experience?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			11-29-2019, 03:16 PM
			
			
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			11-29-2019, 03:19 PM
			
			
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				I don't know. I find that I continue to have a difficult time saying that I am an atheist. I probably am—at least functionally (but I think the joke in there is that all of us are basically functionally atheists). I am probably an atheist in that I see no good evidence for the existence of a god, but I am completely open to the possibility of a god. 
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To us long term atheists, you might as well just say you are open to the possibility of unicorns or Easter Bunnies.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			11-29-2019, 03:21 PM
			
			
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				anecdote time, I'm 31 and the only time i have ever been to church is when i slept over at a friends house on a saturday when i was a kid and went with their family. the extent of my parents' religiosity was telling me to not say the lords name in vain if i said god damn until was probably like 12 years old. my wife was the same way 
			
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The is a constant pet-peeve of mine that drives me crazy.
 
Saying "God," "Jesus," "Christ," "Lord," in an expletive manner is not in breach of the third commandment. "Taking the name of YHWH in vain" is precisely that. It's using the revealed name of the tribal god of ancient Israel callously or out of an appropriate sacral context. So, in other words, NO ONE for thousands of years has ever been guilty of this silly infraction.
 
The extension of this rule to include other denominators has always been ridiculous, and completely detracts from the spirit of the rule, which served to once emphasize the numinous quality of the name of Israel's god.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			11-29-2019, 03:25 PM
			
			
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			The example in the article of the Anglican Church doesn’t surprise me.  My experience in that church as a child was that it was very liberal, open and accepting, not dogmatic or judgemental - which meant that while it was very comfortable as a community there wasn’t much to stoke beliefs. I suspect that while overall church attendance is dropping it is dropping less or even growing in more fervent Evangelical denominations i.e. if you’re going to be religious go all in.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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