05-25-2018, 09:08 AM
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#141
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
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32. Parents and I got along really well and I was paying off school debt and saving up so I could buy my own place which I did in December. 🙂
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05-25-2018, 09:14 AM
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#142
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Originally Posted by driveway
Currently on Kijiji there are five Bachelor/Studio apartments available in the city for less than $800/month.
A full-time, minimum wage job in Alberta pays $544/week before taxes & deductions, or $2176/month - again, before taxes & deductions. Given the basic rule that rent should be about 3 times your income, no one working a full-time, minimum wage job in Calgary can afford to rent their own apartment.
There are about 20 rooms available for $500 or less a month in shared-renting situations, so a full-time, minimum-wage employee does has some options available in the city.
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I got my first place at 20. My student loan gave me $800 a month to live on ($1375 in today's dollars). I rented a 2-bedroom suite in Altadore for $550 a month, including utilities ($950 in 2018). I had a roommate, so my share was $275. That left around $125 a week ($190 in 2018) for food and other expenses (mainly beer). Was it a comfortable lifestyle? Of course not. That's why they call it student poverty. I still preferred it to living at home. I was much closer to Mount Royal, I could come and go as I pleased, have my friends over all the time, and live as an independent adult.
At 25 I was making $1,800 a month working at a book store ($2700 in today's dollars). I rented a floor of an older house in the beltline for $800 a month ($1200 a month in today's dollars), which I split with a roommate.
A quick search on Kijiji turns up 268 apartments available in Calgary for $950 or less, half of them 2 bedroom. It turns up 497 apartments for $1200, most of them 2+ bedrooms.
The key is roommates. I don't know when people started assuming they should be able to afford to live alone when they're in their 20s. 90 per cent of the people I knew in my 20s had roommates until they paired up and moved in with a partner or got married.
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Last edited by CliffFletcher; 05-25-2018 at 09:19 AM.
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05-25-2018, 09:24 AM
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#143
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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That 30-Year-Old Man Still Living In His Parents' House Appeared On CNN And It Was Painfully Awkward
"So that was one of the more surreal interviews we've taken part of here in the last little while..."
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tanyachen/3...a0y#.wsGxP59MX
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05-25-2018, 09:30 AM
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#144
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: sector 7G
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This guy has a kid? How did he ever get laid?
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05-25-2018, 09:53 AM
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#145
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Calgary
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Oh man, I wanted to get out as soon as I could but my parents were pretty laid back to be honest. I left after university, so I was 23-24 and moved to Vancouver for two years from Calgary, then lived in Holland for a year and back to Calgary. I lived with my parents for 1 month when I got back to find a place. Moved in to a house and shared accommodations with them for 2 years before I got my own apartment. Doing those things mentioned above in your own apartment is great. I agree with that!
My oldest step son is 17 in 2 months. I couldn't imagine him moving out any time soon. He would be so lost in the world. Anyway, we are good with him living here with us if he is in school or saving for his own place as long as he is working once he is finished school. There will be no laying around and playing video games all day and milking for too long.
I met some people last weekend, who have their 24 year old daughter and 28 year old son still living with them. I get staying until you are finished uni and then maybe another year or two to save for a house, but 28? No thanks. I guess my immediate reaction when this retired couple told me their kids still live with them, wasn't likely the greatest as I laughed and asked why. They were great about it, so no biggie but there is no way our kids are staying until they are 28. We have a small house, 1100 sq. feet, 3 bedroom and 1 bathroom, no basement, all on a main floor. So there is no escaping each other for any privacy. You can hear everything in the house, so they won't be able to have girls over or friends unless they want to hangout with us. Anyway, I want them to have that freedom and be independant, we don't want them to rely on us for too long once they finish school.
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05-25-2018, 10:21 AM
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#146
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Franchise Player
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Had to move for university but came home each summer. After graduating I moved away for good, I have not lived in the same town as my parents since then.
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05-25-2018, 10:31 AM
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#147
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I think it's a misconception that people who leave home young don't get along with their parents. It's about lifestyle.
Things I liked to do that were tough to do living with my parents: Get drunk lots; hang out with my friends most nights; smoke dope; have lady-friends over; come and go at all hours; loaf around with absolutely nobody to answer to; eat what I want when I want; host parties. I also enjoyed inner city living - being able to walk everywhere - and my parents lived in the burbs.
So I guess my question for people who are comfortable living with their parents until they're 30, or grew up in cultures where kids don't move away until they marry is this:
Are you less interested in doing the stuff I listed above? Or are your parents more tolerant of you doing that stuff at home? I'm particularly interested in the having lady/guy friends stay over, as I'm assuming that in a traditional culture household, it's not cool for a family's 25 year old daughter to have rando guys spend the night.
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05-25-2018, 10:41 AM
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#148
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Lifetime Suspension
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Moved out at 19, as I realized I couldn't hope to be better than a C+ student while commuting 2 hours a day. Moved back at 25 for 1 year of grad school (they moved a lot closer to the school), which rolled into an extra year and a half as I had to get 2 major surgeries and was broke as ####. Always got along great with the folks.
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05-25-2018, 11:36 AM
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#149
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by habernac
This guy has a kid? How did he ever get laid?
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I have a friend who disclosed that her son (mid 30s) who lives in mom and dad's basement got a girl pregnant. My friend didn't know he had a girlfriend let alone was having sex.
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05-25-2018, 11:47 AM
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#150
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Lethbridge
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I left on my 18th birthday. Drove grain truck all day, showered, packed up my Trans Am and left for University that night.
Couldn't wait to get out of there. Maybe a small town thing.
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05-25-2018, 11:52 AM
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#151
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Don't click that link!
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Rural Alberta
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Move out? Why?
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05-25-2018, 12:16 PM
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#152
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Sadly not in the Dome.
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Just after I turned 20 after finishing school. Lived in a small basement suite in NW Edmonton while working at a TV station. Moved even farther north after a few months (temp summer relief position) in Edmonton and got a apartment for $250-$300 I think. Never looked back. My brother on the other hand stayed until he was 27 I believe.
I have a 22 year still living at home. Just to damn expensive around here (vancouver) to get a decent place. He pays rent but not much.
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05-25-2018, 12:23 PM
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#153
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addition by subtraction
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Tulsa, OK
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I lived it home during college breaks and then for my first year after college as I took a super low pay job with the AmeriCorps program. (tiny salary was slightly offset by a slightly less tiny tuition reimbursement program)
After I got my first real job, I was able to start renting a small house after I stashed the first couple paychecks. I think I was 24 at that time.
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05-25-2018, 12:30 PM
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#154
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Lifetime Suspension
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It's not what it was way back when. Things are expensive as hell today and wages haven't risen for younger, less experienced people in such positions accordingly. So it's pretty normal for twenty somethings to be in and out of their family's place. I know a number of them, and they're capable and ambitious people.
#### urban living costs (small towns are a different story).
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05-25-2018, 12:36 PM
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#155
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by troutman
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I saw the clip and it was definitely awkward but I felt that the anchor that interviewed him came across very "judgy" and felt for the guy. Her eye rolls and rhetorical questions framed to embarrass him on nation TV I thought were a little much.
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05-25-2018, 12:38 PM
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#156
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uzbekistan
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25. I stayed at home rent free for two degrees, although it almost killed me. When I graduated, I moved a few time zones away and will never go back.
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05-25-2018, 01:08 PM
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#157
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Powerplay Quarterback
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19, once I got kicked out of University (Dean's vacation) my folks raised the rent to encourage me to move on. There were four more kids, I figured they could use the space. Plus I had a decent job and my first place was in the condos that were the Olympic media village the year before.
My oldest turns 18 this summer, I am not seeing a move out day anytime soon. Which makes my wife happy.
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05-25-2018, 01:27 PM
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#158
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Pickle Jar Lake
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Originally Posted by djsFlames
It's not what it was way back when. Things are expensive as hell today and wages haven't risen for younger, less experienced people in such positions accordingly. So it's pretty normal for twenty somethings to be in and out of their family's place. I know a number of them, and they're capable and ambitious people.
#### urban living costs (small towns are a different story).
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Not sure I buy that...back in 1995 minimum wage(which is all you got at most basic jobs) was $5. That's $7.62 inflation adjusted. Now it's what, $13.60, going to $15 in October. That's almost double the 1995 wage.
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05-25-2018, 01:31 PM
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#159
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Not sure I buy that...back in 1995 minimum wage(which is all you got at most basic jobs) was $5. That's $7.62 inflation adjusted. Now it's what, $13.60, going to $15 in October. That's almost double the 1995 wage.
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I get that, but housing has gone up 3x in the same time frame. As well as food, transportation, etc...
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05-25-2018, 01:34 PM
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#160
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I moved out at 18, I was still in high school. It was a snowy winter and my car was trash making it difficult to drive 20+ KM to class . I moved in with my brother in town and started working full time so that I could pay rent and get better tires. When I was at university I spent one more summer at home to save money on rent. I enjoyed living with roommates at that age, some of the funnest times I've had.
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