Cell Phones Don't Cause Brain Cancer

[jolinar of malkshor]

You can stop worrying about getting brain cancer from your cell phone. A massive study of just about every private cell phone user in Denmark shows no link between gabbing on your mobile and the development of brain tumors.

http://time.blogs.com/daily_rx/2006/12/cellphones.html

I never bought into that idea that Cell phones cause brain tumors. It's just radio wave.....we are bombarded with them every where all the time.

[habernac]

they just cause stupid driving.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by habernac

they just cause stupid driving.

Yeah ain't that the truth. They don't cause brain cancer --just brain death.

And why is it people feel compelled to talk twice as loud as they do with a normal phone? As if we want to hear their dufus conversation.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I never bought into that idea that Cell phones cause brain tumors. It's just radio wave.....we are bombarded with them every where all the time.

Radio waves can cause cancer.. Look at microwaves as an example. That is RF. HOWEVER.. Cell phones are unlikely to cause brain tumors. A lot of this is simple dynamics of signal propagation. Water attenuates RF signals to a very large degree and the brain is surrounded by a layer of water. So even when transmitting at full power (when you're cell signal strength is lowest) it's still not near an order that is likely to cause cancer.

[Looger]

we Do get blasted with radio waves all the time, but cellphones put the transmission source right by your head.

transmission intensity is inversely squared (or cubed - can't remember) in relation to distance from the source. yes, that tower is 50,000 watts or whatever but it's microwatts at your brain.

that cellphone is many thousands of times stronger when it comes to radiation flying through your brain, plain and simple.

[HelloHockeyFans]

I wonder what gamma in is looking into the human ear...

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

It's just radio wave.....we are bombarded with them every where all the time.

How does the intensity of a radio wave die off?

And what happens when you take a electromagnetic wave interacts with a conductor?

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by kermitology

Radio waves can cause cancer.. Look at microwaves as an example. That is RF. HOWEVER.. Cell phones are unlikely to cause brain tumors. A lot of this is simple dynamics of signal propagation. Water attenuates RF signals to a very large degree and the brain is surrounded by a layer of water. So even when transmitting at full power (when you're cell signal strength is lowest) it's still not near an order that is likely to cause cancer.

Yes....I know that....the frequency of radio waves of cell phones do not cause cancer however as they are long waves......not short wave like gamma waves....which most definately cause cancer. Microwaves on the electromagnetic spectrum cannot cause cancer as they do not have energy needed to ionize atoms or knock out electrons from atoms.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Looger

we Do get blasted with radio waves all the time, but cellphones put the transmission source right by your head.

transmission intensity is inversely squared (or cubed - can't remember) in relation to distance from the source. yes, that tower is 50,000 watts or whatever but it's microwatts at your brain.

that cellphone is many thousands of times stronger when it comes to radiation flying through your brain, plain and simple.

Plain and simple....it does not cause cancer. No matter how long you shine a flashlight on your head or how close it is to your head....it is not going to cause cancer.....plain and simple.

[Looger]

ALL EM radiation that has penetration power can cumulatively cause DNA / cell breakdown.

not just the 'microwave' frequency, which is simply the resonant frequency of water and it happens to fall into the microwave band of the EM radiation chart.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

How does the intensity of a radio wave die off?

And what happens when you take a electromagnetic wave interacts with a conductor?

What?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Yes....I know that....the frequency of radio waves of cell phones do not cause cancer however as they are long waves......not short wave like gamma waves....which most definately cause cancer. Microwaves on the electromagnetic spectrum cannot cause cancer as they do not have energy needed to ionize atoms or knock out electrons from atoms.

Do you know what you're talking about?

Microwaves... defined by wavelength... do not have the.... energy?

How about a 100 MeV microwave signal? It doesn't ionize atoms (again, depends on wavelength ), you should feel safe if there was one by your bed when you are sleeping, right?

PS: When you are talking about microwaves or RF or IR, you are talking about wavelength, then energy.

[Looger]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Plain and simple....it does not cause cancer. No matter how long you shine a flashlight on your head or how close it is to your head....it is not going to cause cancer.....plain and simple.

it doesn't 'cause cancer', it contributes to the destruction of your cells.

it's a factor and if you put a transmission source of radiation by your head for hours a day i guarantee you'll eventually cause some kind of problem.

using a phone once won't give you cancer, no. but even the newer <3W phones cumulatively DO cause damage.

light is in the EM area that doesn't have much penetration and besides, that's a VERY weak form of it as compared to a cell phone.

that's like saying that since a bike won't damage your car then it's safe from the freight train.

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

Plain and simple....it does not cause cancer. No matter how long you shine a flashlight on your head or how close it is to your head....it is not going to cause cancer.....plain and simple.

Good argument... flashlight...

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

What?

Just showing you know nothing about electromagnetics and its boundary conditions

[Looger]

this reminds me of the cops that are suing their departments for being rendered sterile from leaving their radar detectors on in their lap.

they must have left the flashlight on too.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Just showing you know nothing about electromagnetics and its boundary conditions

Maxwell's Equations are NOT fun!

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by HelloHockeyFans

Maxwell's Equations are NOT fun!

I LIVE for it

PS : Maxwell's equations can be broken down into 1 equation. You're looking at 4D gradiants, not 3D.

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Looger

this reminds me of the cops that are suing their departments for being rendered sterile from leaving their radar detectors on in their lap.

they must have left the flashlight on too.

I have VERY limited understanding of electomagnetic engineering....however....I do no that microwaves are lower energy waves than even light waves.

As for radar detectors....what are you talking about? Do you mean radar guns?

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

I have VERY limited understanding of electomagnetic engineering....however....I do no that microwaves are lower energy waves than even light waves.

Hahaha... um... no.

A microwave is a electromagnetic wave at a wavelength (~30cm)... why are you talking about power?

How about a microwave satallite at 100kW?