Spoilers...Avengers: Infinity War Spoilers Thread

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by troutman

Film Festivals are full of quality art films, if summer block-busters aren't your thing.

Absolutely, but they always have been. What used to be the case was that from these myriad film-festival-bait movies, a few real standouts with more than just arthouse appeal would get a good amount of word of mouth behind them and everyone would go and see them. Or you'd get that type of movie made outside of that small-budget context, and it'd have all sorts of hype behind it. I'm thinking about movies like Lost In Translation, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind, Memento, No Country for Old Men, Children of Men, The Wrestler, A History of Violence etc etc etc. There were lots of those films that got a ton of buzz in the 2000s, such that you went to see them in theatre. Not so much in the 2010s.

I do wonder if it's partly a product of home theatres getting to a point where the experience of watching on your couch, for anything less spectacular than an Avengers movie, is so good that you don't want to bother with leaving your house and paying to see it in a theatre. For me, that's unfortunate. Seeing some of the above movies in theatre (Memento comes to mind specifically) was a fantastic and memorable experience for me, far more so than seeing, say, Black Panther in Imax.

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

I do wonder if it's partly a product of home theatres getting to a point where the experience of watching on your couch, for anything less spectacular than an Avengers movie, is so good that you don't want to bother with leaving your house and paying to see it in a theatre. For me, that's unfortunate. Seeing some of the above movies in theatre (Memento comes to mind specifically) was a fantastic and memorable experience for me, far more so than seeing, say, Black Panther in Imax.

I think there has been a shift with how studios fund movies. They seem more willingly to dump hundreds of millions into large franchise movies because they are almost guaranteed to make it back and then some. They will also fund movies for a couple to several million. But the in-between budgets have dried up a lot.

[GGG]

The other thing that has changed is movie stars carrying movies and being able to deliver box office.

The Rock is probably the only one right now that people will go to see without the IP backing.

[N-E-B]

Held off on seeing it for a bit, I hate packed theatres.

Thought it was good but definitely didn’t blow my mind or anything. I honestly left the theatre a bit underwhelmed, but not dissatisfied. I’d give it an 8/10.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Raekwon

Vision/Scarlet was short and sweet, no need to go into a huge backstory or try and make it a movie on its own but its a big story.

Hulk not coming out seemed to be a pride thing after he got wrecked in space and nearly killed. No one is stronger than Hulk in his own mind.

Gamora was sacrificed and I can agree her not seeing it coming was odd but she isn't dead she is living happily in the Soul Stone.

I don't know much about Starlord so I don't know if his character is supposed to be that over the top, I like the character but I don't think its portrayed as it would be in the comics?

The movie could have been twice as long and went into full detail and I would be ok with that, its hard to bring this many storylines together with enough screen time to make the audience get into it (Looking at you Justice League)

The directors confirmed why Hulk won't come out. Something to do with how Banner only wants him for fighting and he's refusing to do it.

[icecube]

Originally Posted by GGG

The other thing that has changed is movie stars carrying movies and being able to deliver box office.

The Rock is probably the only one right now that people will go to see without the IP backing.

Boggles my mind how big of a draw Dwayne Johnson is at the box office when he hasn't made a single movie I'd consider great.

Fast Five was pretty good. Moana was good. Jumanji entertained me. The Rundown wasn't bad. All of his movies other than that are fairly mediocre. He's even had some pieces of trash like Baywatch and Pain and Gain.

Not the most impressive resume for the biggest box office draw in the world.

[CaptainCrunch]

I was talking to my boss, and his hulk theory was interesting in that everytime Hulk comes out he takes over more and more of Banner and one day Banner won't be able to change back. The Hulk might be trying to save Bruce

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by icecube

Boggles my mind how big of a draw Dwayne Johnson is at the box office when he hasn't made a single movie I'd consider great.

Fast Five was pretty good. Moana was good. Jumanji entertained me. The Rundown wasn't bad. All of his movies other than that are fairly mediocre. He's even had some pieces of trash like Baywatch and Pain and Gain.

Not the most impressive resume for the biggest box office draw in the world.

It's almost like people have different tastes and movie judgement criteria or something...

[GGG]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Held off on seeing it for a bit, I hate packed theatres.

Thought it was good but definitely didn’t blow my mind or anything. I honestly left the theatre a bit underwhelmed, but not dissatisfied. I’d give it an 8/10.

Do you think you were influenced by the reviews of it being fantastic and then let down because your elevated expectations weren't met or do you think regardless of when you saw it would your reaction been the same.

I always wonder about this as generally the second or third week a popular movie is out the reviews from people start to be it was good but not that good. Is this because the people who really wanted the movie to be good go first and they are predisposed to liking it more or the latter where people going later have had their expectations raised and therefore are disappointed.

I know for me going in I thought this movie wasn't going to work and was prepared for it to be mediocre and it blew me away with what they accomplished in terms of character and motivation. So my low expectations definitely made me think this movie was better than say someone who came in with a neutral stance.

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by GGG

Do you think you were influenced by the reviews of it being fantastic and then let down because your elevated expectations weren't met or do you think regardless of when you saw it would your reaction been the same.

I always wonder about this as generally the second or third week a popular movie is out the reviews from people start to be it was good but not that good. Is this because the people who really wanted the movie to be good go first and they are predisposed to liking it more or the latter where people going later have had their expectations raised and therefore are disappointed.

I know for me going in I thought this movie wasn't going to work and was prepared for it to be mediocre and it blew me away with what they accomplished in terms of character and motivation. So my low expectations definitely made me think this movie was better than say someone who came in with a neutral stance.

For the reasons you outlined I never look for reviews or scores of movies before I go and see them in the theatre so I don't get myself worked up or go in thinking it will be awful or something like that.

[sureLoss]

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by GGG

Do you think you were influenced by the reviews of it being fantastic and then let down because your elevated expectations weren't met or do you think regardless of when you saw it would your reaction been the same.

I always wonder about this as generally the second or third week a popular movie is out the reviews from people start to be it was good but not that good. Is this because the people who really wanted the movie to be good go first and they are predisposed to liking it more or the latter where people going later have had their expectations raised and therefore are disappointed.

I know for me going in I thought this movie wasn't going to work and was prepared for it to be mediocre and it blew me away with what they accomplished in terms of character and motivation. So my low expectations definitely made me think this movie was better than say someone who came in with a neutral stance.

Yeah I would say that probably played a part in it. I didn't read any reviews other than Facebook posts and tweets saying how good it was, so mostly just hearsay as opposed to reading true reviews. I also felt a little behind as I've missed a few of the newer Marvel movies which also might have influenced some of my understanding as to what was happening in a few scenes.

I think over the next few weeks I'm going to try catch up on the MCU and see if it changes my perspective at all.

[nik-]

Finally saw this.

What execution. I've always felt they've done a really mediocre job legitimately building up Thanos as a villain, but they did a great job with him in this movie. The Dr. Strange/Thanos battle is, for me, the best comic book movie fight I've seen. Super creative, visually interesting, using a wide range of powers. Awesome.

Such a dark ending. It's too bad we can't really take it as seriously as you could in another universe/movie.

My only complaint? I'm sorry, I want to see the Hulk in the final fight. Just not the same without him.

[djsFlames]

Wasn't actual hulk in the trailer running behind CA?
Misleading promo-only material I suppose. What was up with the hulkrectile dysfunction anyway.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Wasn't actual hulk in the trailer running behind CA?
Misleading promo-only material I suppose. What was up with the hulkrectile dysfunction anyway.

He had never fully been owned like Thanos owned him before. He's taken some hit yeah, from his pals, but never K/O'ed. So Hulk like a child cowered when called upon a second time.

[Poe969]

I read that it wasn't because Hulk got beat up that made him not come out. The Russo brothers said it's more of he's resenting Bruce and everyone because they only want him when they need him, he doesn't feel like part of the team. It goes back to Thor Ragnarok where Thor had the same conversation with both Bruce and the Hulk about how he likes whichever one he's talking to at the time and not the other. Marvel is working towards a Hulk where him and Bruce can work together and help each other instead of the two of them always at odds.

As for the scene where everyone is running in Wakanda, it was never going to be in the movie, they just wanted a shot of all the main heros together for advertising just like the shot of Iron Man flying with Spider Man in homecoming that was in adds but not the movie.

[Finger Cookin]

I really hope that is the direction they're going with Hulk, because the merged Professor Hulk incarnation is my favorite version of Hulk to ever appear in the comics so far.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Yeah I doubt they'll do THAT. But Ruffalo has said in interviews that Hulk hates Banner and Banner hates Hulk, and that they are headed for a standoff.

EDIT: it'd be cool if it led to World War Hulk though. Black Widow dies, Hulk goes full rage and Banner stays conscious because they both want to smash, and Bob's your uncle. Print another billion dollars for Marvel.

[KevanGuy]

I think the Hulk/Banner conflict is the set up to write Ruffalo out and have Hulk around full time. Ties in with Ragnorak a bit too with 2 year Hulk.

[V]

Saw it yesterday. It was a fun movie. It was nice to see it as more of a Thanos movie than an Avengers movie. I think some people are overselling it a little in this thread, but it was a good time.