Time to ban Pitbulls from Calgary

[Minnie]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Thank everything holy for that rule!! Disgusting, vile, putrid things of my nightmares.

LOL. The domesticated (aka "fancy") ones are pretty cool. Very smart critters too.

Rats used to be used for blood sport - rat baiting. They'd toss a hundred or so of them in a pit, and then toss in a terrier breed and bets would be made on how long it would take the dog to kill all of them. Illegal in most countries now.

Fancy rats are great pets. They are largely self-caring and affordable pets. They are considered to be on par with cats/dogs in terms of intelligence. Easy to train, loyal, intelligent (as mentioned), self caring (independent), and if they're from a reputable breeder, pose no more of a health risk than any other pet you might own.

Friends in Sask have 2 of the fancy rats. Sweetest animals and now their favorite pet ever, out of any pets they've owned. I'd own a couple if Alberta allowed it, but I'm not keen on shelling out $5K/rat in fines.

We grew up with a fairly big variety of animals over the years, even looked after a squirrel monkey for a couple of months when I was about 7, for friends of the family, while they were overseas. Us kids enjoyed it, not sure about my parents, haha. I'm game to own almost any pet I'd legally be allowed to - there are a few exceptions, big honking spiders being one. Now, whether or not I could is a whole other story, given the severe allergy I've developed in the past couple of months. I suspect a lot of critters are out of reach as pets now.

[RichKlit]

Honestly not one word of what you said matters to me at all, they are the most disgusting animals on the planet. I know all about the rat baiting and had Westies when I lived in sask specifically to rid our property of rats. I know how integral they are to the food chain in the wild but they have no place in urban settings they should not mix with humans. Pets or wild. I didn’t mean for this post to sound rude, reading the first sentence it kinda comes off that way and I’m sorry, I hate hate hate rodents and I literally have at least one nightmare a week with rats involved.

[RichKlit]

Sorry for going off topic....but I really hate rats.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by RichKlit

Sorry for going off topic....but I really hate rats.

Rat's, mice, or any kind of rodent can go completely extinct and shouldn't be missed, sadly I'm pretty sure they'll be around long after humans are gone. In the meantime a couple of beautiful siamese cats will keep these critters far from your home.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

In the meantime a couple of beautiful siamese cats will keep these critters far from your home.

Speaking of crazy animals, I have two Siamese and a Sphynx. The Sphynx is the biggest suck ever but one of my Siamese is right insane. He will hide in high places and leap on your head, nails extended. Or he will suddenly attack your feet for no reason and then run off like a mad man.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Minnie

LOL. The domesticated (aka "fancy") ones are pretty cool. Very smart critters too.

Rats used to be used for blood sport - rat baiting. They'd toss a hundred or so of them in a pit, and then toss in a terrier breed and bets would be made on how long it would take the dog to kill all of them. Illegal in most countries now.

Fancy rats are great pets. They are largely self-caring and affordable pets. They are considered to be on par with cats/dogs in terms of intelligence. Easy to train, loyal, intelligent (as mentioned), self caring (independent), and if they're from a reputable breeder, pose no more of a health risk than any other pet you might own.

Friends in Sask have 2 of the fancy rats. Sweetest animals and now their favorite pet ever, out of any pets they've owned. I'd own a couple if Alberta allowed it, but I'm not keen on shelling out $5K/rat in fines.

We grew up with a fairly big variety of animals over the years, even looked after a squirrel monkey for a couple of months when I was about 7, for friends of the family, while they were overseas. Us kids enjoyed it, not sure about my parents, haha. I'm game to own almost any pet I'd legally be allowed to - there are a few exceptions, big honking spiders being one. Now, whether or not I could is a whole other story, given the severe allergy I've developed in the past couple of months. I suspect a lot of critters are out of reach as pets now.

I had a roommate with a pet rat. They are surprisingly smart and socialable animals.

That roommate also had a pit bull. It was a very friendly dog and put up with a ton of abuse from their cat (our place was practically a zoo along with fish, birds and a salamander). The pittie did kill another dog but I think I was defending itself.

I’m not sure where I stand on a ban. It’s tough to sort out the facts. Pit bulls can definitely be sweet, loving pets but their bite strength means when they do go bad it’s often disastrous. Hefty fines (for owners of any breeds that attack people) would be a good start.

[stang]

Love my rotty. Great family dog, but we live in the country.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by stang

Love my rotty. Great family dog, but we live in the country.

and i'm sure he would let go if you told him to, if he attacked a cat or a dog right? Not sure if a pitbull would though.

[Johnny Makarov]

I sure hope this guy gets his pitbull back though. This ban i want enforced definitely doesn't include existing ones that are already here.

A bear couldn't even kill it!
http://calgaryherald.com/news/local-...-in-kananaskis

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and i'm sure he would let go if you told him to, if he attacked a cat or a dog right? Not sure if a pitbull would though.

So, one look at a Rottweiler, who appears to be on the larger side of 100lbs, and you're confident to assume, that if it was in the mental state of attacking another animal, it would quickly release the victim and return to a calm and collected state at it's owners request.

But, you feel the dogs pictured below would not do the same?

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[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by wretched34

So, one look at a Rottweiler, who appears to be on the larger side of 100lbs, and you're confident to assume, that if it was in the mental state of attacking another animal, it would quickly release the victim and return to a calm and collected state at it's owners request.

But, you feel the dogs pictured below would not do the same?

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I'm curious as to your reasoning.

No. I don't know if his rottweiler would release a dog or cat it is biting. That's why i'm asking him a question. Course with it's bite force and size the dog or cat is prob toast anyways. And i guess since he didn't reply to my question and thanked your post, prob not?

You know you could post those vids from liveleak that shows pitbull attacks weekly, where they hold on for dear life.

[Fuzz]

It''s an odd point to make. Here are some pictures of a cute dog! Could you ever imagine this cute little dude ever hurting anyone?

Yes. Yes I could.

[wretched34]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

No. I don't know if his rottweiler would release a dog or cat it is biting. That's why i'm asking him a question. Course with it's bite force and size the dog or cat is prob toast anyways. And i guess since he didn't reply to my question and thanked your post, prob not?

You know you could post those vids from liveleak that shows pitbull attacks weekly, where they hold on for dear life.

the way it was stated seemed less question, than assurance. "Your dog would stop, right? but I doubt a pitbull would"

As for the pitbulls holding on for dear life, that goes back to instinct from dogs bred for bull baiting. They were trained to subdue Bulls by grasping the fleshy part of the nose, without causing damage. Ultimately, when a "Pitbull" attacks, they try to attach themselves to a point, and wrestle the victim into submission. Obviously, by instinct, humans and most other animals will react by attempting to break that hold, and defend themselves, which leads to additional bites. If you played dead, like the old Bear logic, a "Pitbull" would not continue to bite, it would simply hold it's ground. Unlike most other breeds, who by instinct bite repeatedly to kill it's prey.

Originally Posted by Fuzz

It''s an odd point to make. Here are some pictures of a cute dog! Could you ever imagine this cute little dude ever hurting anyone?

Yes. Yes I could.

The point was, how can you look at a picture of one breed and assume they'd behave in one manner, and then assume another breed would behave in the opposite manner, simply based on appearance.
I don't live in denial, and pretend that either of my dogs aren't capable of attacking another animal or human. They are animals, which is why I take it upon myself to ensure they are well trained, and well cared for, to reduce that risk as much as possible.

[stang]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and i'm sure he would let go if you told him to, if he attacked a cat or a dog right? Not sure if a pitbull would though.

Sorry didnt realize you wanted an answer. I am not sure. I can make him drop a sock he pickups or some garbage. Hes good towards the smaller dogs and cats.

Kills Moles and Muskrats though.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Johnny Makarov

and i'm sure he would let go if you told him to, if he attacked a cat or a dog right? Not sure if a pitbull would though.

Now you are just being ridiculous. The Lab that attacked my uncles dog was also a family dog that had never bit a person. His owner was calling his dog off but it continued to maul my uncles dog. You are ridiculously bias against pitt bulls or dogs that remotely resemble them, we get it.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Speaking of crazy animals, I have two Siamese and a Sphynx. The Sphynx is the biggest suck ever but one of my Siamese is right insane. He will hide in high places and leap on your head, nails extended. Or he will suddenly attack your feet for no reason and then run off like a mad man.

That's awesome assuming he's just playing!

The Siamese breed can be crazy smart and very loyal, Years ago we had a huge 18 lb seal point that could open any kind of door if it had a knob/handle, would pee in a toilet(but would never poop though?) and had a vocabulary better than any dog when he wanted food.

Best part was he would never claw or bite a child even if a kid was hurting him but I dare say even a pitbull wouldn't stand a chance against him, what he did to a loose german shepard in our yard gave my dad nightmares and serious thoughts of putting him down. Thankfully he didn't and he lived to the ripe age of 17 before committing suicide by car.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

That's awesome assuming he's just playing!

The Siamese breed can be crazy smart and very loyal, Years ago we had a huge 18 lb seal point that could open any kind of door if it had a knob/handle, would pee in a toilet(but would never poop though?) and had a vocabulary better than any dog when he wanted food.

Best part was he would never claw or bite a child even if a kid was hurting him but I dare say even a pitbull wouldn't stand a chance against him, what he did to a loose german shepard in our yard gave my dad nightmares and serious thoughts of putting him down. Thankfully he didn't and he lived to the ripe age of 17 before committing suicide by car.

Aww, that sucks he got hit by a car. That's just it though, you can't judge a breed by certain individuals. The siamese I am talking about is not just playing, he is bat#### crazy. I have encountered other Siamese that are the crazy too. My other Siamese is a big baby, would never hurt a fly. He is the ideal cat except his fascination with morning breath and waking you up because he has stuck his nose in your mouth.