R2 - Series Thread - Jets (C2) vs Preds (C1) (Jets in 7!)

[ricardodw]

Th Jets naturally play a heavier game. They do not have to step up and play a different harder style in the playoffs. Over the regular season this doesn't matter much but in the playoffs the top-4 d-men for the Predators will be in a constant state of recovery. The fall off after the top-4 falls off dramatically to Emelin and Irwin and Yannick Weber is taking a longer time getting healthy.

Dumba was pretty spectacular for the Wild at the start of the series and wore down over 3-4 games.

Jets have to win one in Nashville. They get 2 chances to start the series.

[getbak]

Game One will be Friday at 6:00pm MT on CBC and SN360.

https://www.nhl.com/news/second-roun...?tid=287339198

[t0rrent98]

nvm

[flamesfan1297]

Preds in 7, will be an awesome series

[CroFlames]

Preds.

A good defense will beat a good offense in the playoffs.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Preds.

A good defense will beat a good offense in the playoffs.

Except for the fact the Penguins have won the last two SC.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

The Predators were in control of all but one game by a pretty fair margin against the Avalanche. If not for Hammond completely playing out of his mind in game 5, the series would have been over very quickly. Nashville also faced a much better opponent in round 1 considering all the injuries the Wild had sustained before and during that series.

This Jets/Preds series will be one of the best matchups we've seen in a long time.

Colorado is much better than Minnesota? Even with the injuries to the Wild, Colorado had their fair share as well. Johnson, Bernier, and Varlarmov were all out. That's their top 2 goalies and their number 1 d man.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Except for the fact the Penguins have won the last two SC.

I didn't know Crosby, Malkin and Kessel were traded to the Jets.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I didn't know Crosby, Malkin and Kessel were traded to the Jets.

Winnipeg is very deep as far as scoring goes. We dont have Crosby Malkin and Kessel but we do have Scheifele, Wheeler, Ehlers, Laine, Connor.

[Mattman]

Winnipeg in 7

I would argue the Preds have more pressure to win in these playoffs than any of the other teams left, even more so than Pittsburgh.

They are feeling it and almost let it get to their head with Colorado.

It's gonna be a heartbreaker game 7 for Nashville.

[vanisleflamesfan]

J-E-T-S
Jets! Jets! Jets!
(in 7)

[White Out 403]

schedule is out

[calgarybornnraised]

2 day break between game 6 and 7. Nice that most of the games are every other day.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

Winnipeg is very deep as far as scoring goes. We dont have Crosby Malkin and Kessel but we do have Scheifele, Wheeler, Ehlers, Laine, Connor.

Winnipeg scored 10 more goals than Nashville over the season.

Nashville let in 7 less goals.... 2 peas in a pod.

The edge Winnipeg has is their depth They went through the year with a lot more injuries.

The Jets lost 134 Man games at forward with a 3.69 Cap hit and 97 games on defense with a 5.8 M cap hit

The Predators lost 63 man games at forward 2.55M cap and 69 games on defense with a 1.79 cap hit.

A the trade deadline the Jets added Stastny and Morrow and the Predators added Fisher and Hartman. More of a positive impact for the Jets.


It looks as though the Jets will be missing Perrault, Kulikov and Mason and possibly Armia to start this series.


the healthy scratches for the Jets look to be Dano and Matthais and Morrow and Poolman (all pretty solid NHL players) along with Petan and Niku (AHL best D-man) from the Moose

The healthy scratches for the Preds (Hartnell and Gauthier Bietto and Bollig)

This is healthy as the Jets have been over the year.

Nashville might be missing Yannick Weber

Over the regular season the Jets ( #11 in league) out hit the Predators (#22) but in the playoffs Jets 31.4 hits / game and Nashville 30 hits a game. Nashville taking a bigger step up and out of their regular game to play playoff heavy.

[Textcritic]

I think this notion that somehow the Jets based on their style of play just slides seamlessly into "playoff hockey" as opposed to the Predators who must make bigger adjustments is nonsense. ALL teams need to adjust from the regular season to round #2, #3, etc.

Winnipeg beat Nashville only once in five games this season. Nashville won three. In 2018 the Predators have two wins against Winnipeg, and the Jets have none. In fact, given that the Predators didn't seem to have any trouble beating the Jets all season, one could argue that if they do step up their physical play they should be even more successful in the playoffs.

[White Out 403]

The last time the Jets and Predators played Winnipeg won, so, not sure where your getting your 2018 stat. Before the playoffs I would have picked Nashville in 6 or 7. But based on what I've see so far and Winnipegs record last 20 games I'm think Jets in 6. Depth, skill, grit, speed and goaltending. Jets have it all right now and it's pretty exciting. I'm confident but Nashville is still the presidents trophy team... Losing to them is no shame.

Go Jets!

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Th Jets naturally play a heavier game. They do not have to step up and play a different harder style in the playoffs. Over the regular season this doesn't matter much but in the playoffs the top-4 d-men for the Predators will be in a constant state of recovery. The fall off after the top-4 falls off dramatically to Emelin and Irwin and Yannick Weber is taking a longer time getting healthy.

Dumba was pretty spectacular for the Wild at the start of the series and wore down over 3-4 games.

Jets have to win one in Nashville. They get 2 chances to start the series.

Jets averaged 31.4 hits per game in round 1, Nashville averaged 30 hits per game in round 1.

I'm not sure there is that big a difference in physicality between these two teams.

If the Jets win this series it will be because IMO they have more true offensive gamebreakers than the Predators, and the defense and goaltending match-up is pretty close.

Also a big difference in a series as close as this one is comes down to special teams at times.

Winnipeg: PP-5TH, PK- 9TH
Nashville: PP-14TH, PK-6TH

Advantage to Winnipeg in that area as well.

Going to go Winnipeg in 6 games in this one, that team is just clicking and healthy at the right time and that is a huge deal come playoff time.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by SuperMatt18

Jets averaged 31.4 hits per game in round 1, Nashville averaged 30 hits per game in round 1.

I'm not sure there is that big a difference in physicality between these two teams.

If the Jets win this series it will be because IMO they have more true offensive gamebreakers than the Predators, and the defense and goaltending match-up is pretty close.

Also a big difference in a series as close as this one is comes down to special teams at times.

Winnipeg: PP-5TH, PK- 9TH
Nashville: PP-14TH, PK-6TH

Advantage to Winnipeg in that area as well.

Going to go Winnipeg in 6 games in this one, that team is just clicking and healthy at the right time and that is a huge deal come playoff time.

My point was that in the regular season the Jets hit a lot more than Nashville. In the playoffs Nashville changed their game to get within the margin of error in hits/game.

I think that physical play (hitting) comes more natural to Winnipeg and Nashville is stepping out of its regular season comfort zone.

The physically play in the playoffs goes way up Minnesota had 22 hits/game against the Jets and almost matched them hit for hit the first game. Over the series they were up over 6 hits a game from their regular season. But by the 3rd game the bruises were more significant that the adrenaline. They reverted back to their non-physical norm.

hits game 1 Jets 39 Wild 31
game 2 Jets 38 Wild 23
game 3 jets 26 Wild 19
game 4 jets 24 Wild 19
game 5 Jets 30 Wild 14

I would be shocked if the Pred's top-4 defense don't get hit 2-3 times as much as they take in the regular season. By game 3-4 they will not be as anxious to take a hit to make the play.


The same goes for Enstom, Morrissey and Trouba on the Jets who will be targeted.

Byfuglien (260) Myers (230) and Chiarot (220) will wear down the hitters. They are all bigger than all of the Predators defensemen.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

The last time the Jets and Predators played Winnipeg won, so, not sure where your getting your 2018 stat...

They scored an extra goal in a shootout (on home ice, to boot). It doesn't count for much at this time of the year.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

My point was that in the regular season the Jets hit a lot more than Nashville. In the playoffs Nashville changed their game to get within the margin of error in hits/game.

I think that physical play (hitting) comes more natural to Winnipeg and Nashville is stepping out of its regular season comfort zone.

The physically play in the playoffs goes way up Minnesota had 22 hits/game against the Jets and almost matched them hit for hit the first game. Over the series they were up over 6 hits a game from their regular season. But by the 3rd game the bruises were more significant that the adrenaline. They reverted back to their non-physical norm.

hits game 1 Jets 39 Wild 31
game 2 Jets 38 Wild 23
game 3 jets 26 Wild 19
game 4 jets 24 Wild 19
game 5 Jets 30 Wild 14

I would be shocked if the Pred's top-4 defense don't get hit 2-3 times as much as they take in the regular season. By game 3-4 they will not be as anxious to take a hit to make the play.


The same goes for Enstom, Morrissey and Trouba on the Jets who will be targeted.

Byfuglien (260) Myers (230) and Chiarot (220) will wear down the hitters. They are all bigger than all of the Predators defensemen.

Even in the regular season it was pretty close.

Jets 22 hits per game.

Preds 20 hits per game.

The size thing could be a factor but you could argue that Josi, Ellis, Subban are all elite skaters/puck movers. They are going to be harder to hit than any of the Wild defenseman were. And overall the rosters are pretty close - average weight of the Jets was 204 lbs this year, and the Predators were 202 lbs (Only difference is pretty much the extra 60lbs Byfuglien carries over the average player).

Plus most of the physicality from the Jets comes on the back end, it's their dmen punishing other teams forwards more than their forwards punishing d-men.

Lowry, Wheeler Tanev were the only forwards with over 1.8 hits per game for the Jets in round 1. Nashville had Watson, Sissons, Hartman, Fisher, Salomaki, & Johansen all over 1.8 hits per game for the Preds in round 1.

This series should be a great fast paced, physical, and highly skilled affair. My pick for best series of the playoffs.