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Old 04-23-2018, 11:27 PM   #1881
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Hopefully Peters has a Hartley style conditioning camp. I believe this team looked slower under GG because he didnt condition them as well as Hartley had in the past. Speed and stamina is king in the NHL now. Part of the never die attitude under Hartley was probably due to having more in the tank to burn. Anyone have any insight on how Peters teams in Carolina looked in terms of conditioning?
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I firmly believe that we may have found that coach that has the Hartley and GG balance. Is that a bad thing? I don't think so, I think he has the strong traits of both.
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:39 PM   #1883
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So he's talked about Gio, Hamilton, Hamonic, Brodie on the right side, Stone, Kulak and Andersson being in the NHL?

How many Dmen are we going to dress??? ...and that's FIVE guys on the right side haha
Maybe it's Peters way of filling the holes on the right wing
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Old 04-24-2018, 12:10 AM   #1884
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Found this over on HF.... So refreshing to hear this from fans and media alike and really gives you hope for the season and the future. October can't come soon enough!

"Everything they’re saying about him is right. He always seemed really intense and when he was hired he was considered a student of new styles. The bruins reporter wrote
article about our modern style and how it compared to the Bruins a couple of seasons ago. Across the league Peters has been getting kudos for our style of play and the changes he made.

We had a really good coach, and most people didn’t seem to realize that.

Players didn’t perform, and his requests for better players went unheeded. Goaltending can make any coach look good or bad. Maybe this had to happen no matter what, and change will maybe be good but the problem here had very little to do with Peters."
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Old 04-24-2018, 06:55 AM   #1885
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You literally misunderstood my post.

I wasnt suggesting the post was mean or hurtful for attacking me. More simply that attacking the messenger rather than the content of the message is pretty low value-add in terms of discussion.
And I was pointing out that you did the exact same thing. Whether mean, or just a low value to the forum, you should act the way you wish others to act towards you.

You pointing out that a personal attack is a low value add is meaningless when your very last post was the same thing. I hope you understand that.
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Old 04-24-2018, 07:05 AM   #1886
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I don’t mind Peters as a coach and think he’ll do ok for you guys, HOWEVER this argument can be used as a reason to not fire Gulutzan.
There was a concerning trend with Gulutzan in both of his two stints as head coach in that both the Stars and Flames declined in year two under him and all four seasons his teams limped into April. There's not a lot there that shows he was improving as a head coach or that his teams were trending up under his guidance.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:43 AM   #1887
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Peters on the Fan now. Remarkably intelligent man. His knowledge of hockey and players is off the charts!

One part he mentioned that I like was that Bill made a point of mentioning that if mistakes keep getting made over and over again, it will be resolved by 1 on 1 sessions in the coach's office. Great news for some of the boneheaded penalties that can't seem to be shaken by certain players. The coaches will work together with the players to fix it.

The more I hear him talk, the more I'm on board with his hiring. He's definitely a leader, and there will be no doubt about who is in charge. Cautiously optimistic this could work out...
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Man the guy can talk, gift of the gab for sure.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:53 AM   #1889
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Man the guy can talk, gift of the gab for sure.
For sure. Communication is definitely one of his strong points.

It seems he's identified some of the issues the Flames' had this past season and what he needs to do to correct them. We'll see if that translates to success on the ice however.
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Old 04-24-2018, 08:55 AM   #1890
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Hopefully Peters has a Hartley style conditioning camp. I believe this team looked slower under GG because he didnt condition them as well as Hartley had in the past.
It seemed the last few years our training camps were more for determining whether PTOs were going to stick than gelling the roster that would start the year.
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I don't know if he was the absolute best option available but just based on the past 24 hours he has made the entire GG tenure feel like the team was being run by an assistant coach.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:00 AM   #1892
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One of the biggest improvements Peters can make is having an effective training camp. The last two years this team didn't look sharp coming out of camp and although we heard excuses galore, I put some of that on the coach and the camp he has organized.

I wonder about the conditioning thing. In today's NHL, does training camp have any impact on conditioning?
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:04 AM   #1893
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One of the biggest improvements Peters can make is having an effective training camp. The last two years this team didn't look sharp coming out of camp and although we heard excuses galore, I put some of that on the coach and the camp he has organized.

I wonder about the conditioning thing. In today's NHL, does training camp have any impact on conditioning?
I think it doesn't make a huge difference physically. But it can set expectations about fitness and sharpen them mentally for sure.

The Flames should make a pitch for Roberts to work full time as a conditioning guy. I suspect that he's happy doing what he does though.
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It's more of a crutch than anything else IMO. Prepare to have this excuse trotted out if Flames get off to a slow start.
Peters addressed the there's an adjustment period for a new coach meme this morning on 960. He said the adjustment period is training camp. If players don't have it figured out by then, there's something seriously wrong.

So don't expect Peters to use it as an excuse (though that probably won't stop some fans using it if the Flames fizzle out of the gate).
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Peters addressed the there's an adjustment period for a new coach meme this morning on 960. He said the adjustment period is training camp. If players don't have it figured out by then, there's something seriously wrong.

So don't expect Peters to use it as an excuse (though that probably won't stop some fans using it if the Flames fizzle out of the gate).
Really if they come out of the gates slow would anyone be surprised as the Flames have been perennial slow starters regardless of the coach. It seems like key guys in Monahan and Gio are slow starters and it's on these guys to try and get out of the gates faster.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:19 AM   #1896
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Peters said all the things we'd hope to hear from him, and I more than anything to be able to get excited for this coming season and for things to turn around. But I do have to step back and understand he was of course going to pitch all the good things we want to hear.

They always do, I mean go back and listen to the GG presser and you'll get a hard on just listening to the bull#### he fed us that never translated to the ice.

With that being said I'm really keen on the fact he worked closely with and is good friends with Babcock, watching this Toronto/Boston series you can see just how much coaching comes into play especially on special teams.

The assistants are usually in charge, however last nights game there were many occasions where Babcock took over and you could see him making adjustments and talking to the players between shifts trying to change things up. This gives me hope as Peters specifically mentioned that those live game adjustments are on him and he feels he needs to step in adjust if things are not working.

Glen never seemed to do that, I never saw him pacing up and down the bench between shifts on special teams adjusting the lines or plan to fit the specific need at that time and I hope by Peters acknowledging it has to happen that he actually does it.

I was completely 200% against the Peters signing, but I will admit now that I'm now officially cautiously optimistic based on how he seems to fit the mold of a middle man between the Hartley and GG systems. Will in translate to the ice next year?

We'll see, but I'm now at least in the group of fans hoping he can turn things around between a change in coach and hopefully some top 6 roster changes this summer.
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Old 04-24-2018, 09:19 AM   #1897
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Staal did one of those sit-down interviews with David Amber (I think it was him anyway) before game 1 or 2 of the Jets series and he was very candid about what it was that happened in Carolina, and it had nothing to do with coaching.

He was very clear that he had lost his passion for the game and was not enjoying playing for a stretch there. It happens sometimes to guys.

Peters played no part in it however.
I was not going to reply to this as it stood out as so self evidently illogical.


If Gio or Gaudreau or Monahan or Backlund somehow lose their passion for the game this year and Peters does not have a strategy or solution to work them back then the Flames start a new rebuild with a new head coach and GM.
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Peters addressed the there's an adjustment period for a new coach meme this morning on 960. He said the adjustment period is training camp. If players don't have it figured out by then, there's something seriously wrong.

So don't expect Peters to use it as an excuse (though that probably won't stop some fans using it if the Flames fizzle out of the gate).
Agreed I don't think Peters is an excuses kind of guy.
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Really if they come out of the gates slow would anyone be surprised as the Flames have been perennial slow starters regardless of the coach. It seems like key guys in Monahan and Gio are slow starters and it's on these guys to try and get out of the gates faster.
This has to be figured out. This team needs to play with confidence and nothing would help more than a fast start that puts them in a PO position from the start.
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Peters addressed the there's an adjustment period for a new coach meme this morning on 960. He said the adjustment period is training camp. If players don't have it figured out by then, there's something seriously wrong.

So don't expect Peters to use it as an excuse (though that probably won't stop some fans using it if the Flames fizzle out of the gate).
I was impressed this morning. He has a lot of knowledge. Let's see if he can turn that into results.

He's aware of game management, which is some thing GG never really grasped.

He even knows that the refereeing is different in the first three months of the season.
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