04-23-2018, 11:55 AM
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#1601
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#1 Goaltender
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What is Treliving's belief on how the game's played?
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04-23-2018, 11:55 AM
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#1602
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I also believe that having lowered expectations in this fan base is going to be a great thing. As long as the team doesn't pump its own tires like saying they're a 100 point team is going to do a lot.
I for hope they push for a playoff spot. Whatever happens after is gravy and fun times.
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How could the expectations be lowered? This board has been collectively talking about the only thing holding this ultra talented roster back has been coaching.
Expectations should be through the roof right now.
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04-23-2018, 11:56 AM
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#1603
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Originally Posted by Jeff Lebowski
What is Treliving's belief on how the game's played?
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From the back out, holding onto the puck.
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04-23-2018, 11:56 AM
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#1604
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I also believe that having lowered expectations in this fan base is going to be a great thing. As long as the team doesn't pump its own tires like saying they're a 100 point team is going to do a lot.
I for hope they push for a playoff spot. Whatever happens after is gravy and fun times.
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Yeah, it seems like fan expectations will be lowered but internal expectations will be very high. This is good because it means high accountability.
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04-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#1605
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Kovaz
Makes me wonder if Treliving wanted to hire him back in 2016, and only went with Gulutzan because Peters was going to stay in Carolina. The timing of events roughly lines up (world cup together in May, Gulutzan hired in early June). That would also explain the seeming lack of a search if they had already done the research two years ago.
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I wouldn't be surprised if this was the case. I know in 2016 Treliving emphasized the work needed to create a "profile" for who the new head coach was going to be. I'm guessing his experience with Peters may have informed what that profile was, and it eventually lead to the Gulutzan hiring.
It also explains the timing -- Treliving needed more time in 2016 to create the "profile". In 2018, he already knew what he was looking for (as evidenced by recent quotes from Treliving that he already had the "profile" in place this time around).
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04-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#1606
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Franchise Player
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I'm cautiously optimistic about the hiring, knowing full well the other top end coaches that were available. However at the end of the day, there is nothing we can do about it and as a fan of the team I will support the decision to hire him. You can tell right away he's a leader. I don't think there is any doubt about who is going to own the room from day 1. Seems like a tough Alberta boy who knows he's in change.
IMO that is exactly what is needed for this team. Seems like a hard ass, but fair. He might have a similar system or NHL numbers that GG had. But he seems the complete opposite in personality. IMO, that was a much bigger change that was needed from the bench boss vs a system change.
For a guy giving his first interview to Calgary media, I thought he did an excellent job of presenting his thoughts and vision of what he wants this team to be.
I'm cautiously optimistic this could work out. Much more so then when GG was hired.
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04-23-2018, 11:57 AM
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#1607
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flash Walken
How could the expectations be lowered? This board has been collectively talking about the only thing holding this ultra talented roster back has been coaching.
Expectations should be through the roof right now.
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Thus setting up another vitriol filled season if that's the case.
I'm honestly going to try a limit my expectations this year and just try to enjoy the season on a game to game basis.
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04-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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Scoring Winger
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I like Treliving's comment on 960 about the difference between "being quick" and "playing quick" a lot.
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04-23-2018, 11:58 AM
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#1609
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First Line Centre
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Style not fundamentally different but there will be differences and players will need to adjust. It will be a quick and up-tempo game (like Gulutzan???)
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04-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#1610
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kovaz
I like Treliving's comment on 960 about the difference between "being quick" and "playing quick" a lot.
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That was the big thing last year. They didn't play quick because they didn't think the game fast enough.
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04-23-2018, 11:59 AM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Ok, we have a new head coach, love him or hate him (would love a poll on that), but shouldn't we be asking the question - who are the AC's going to be?
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1612
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why gave Gelenas and Singleton been retained?
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1613
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Uranus
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Originally Posted by DJones
Ya that's how I see it. He did the same as Gulutzan with a worse team, internal cap, terrible goaltending, and in the best division.
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Teams like Nashville, Winnipeg (to name a couple obvious choices) rarely get close to the cap and are proving this to be a very prudent strategy. Carolina is one of the youngest teams in the league with 4 regulars coming off of ELCs in the next year - payroll is going to be at least $12M higher as those raises kick in for extremely good, young players. This strategy is certainly not a negative when you consider the Hurricanes are rebuilding and have the players to be a very good club, very soon.
I'd honestly rather the Flames drop $5-6M in payroll and don't sign Brouwer/Versteeg type players who give you very little or end up hurt or look for crummy PTO players every year.
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1614
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by edn88
Ok, we have a new head coach, love him or hate him (would love a poll on that), but shouldn't we be asking the question - who are the AC's going to be?
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That's step #3 of the off-season process.
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1615
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Not necessarily a vote of confidence for the remaining coaching staff (Gelinas, Sigalet, etc). Said its a clean slate for Peters. They are part of the coaching staff, but its a clean slate for him to do what he needs to.
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1616
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#1 Goaltender
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Treliving saying that fundamentally not drastic change between Gulutzan and Peters but there will be tweaks. Says uptempo is a key point.
I like the uptempo aspect. I heard active d from Peters. So this is good but we'll have to wait and see obviously.
I'd like to see the VGK type of team but if Peters wins and it's entertaining he'll have a fan in me.
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04-23-2018, 12:00 PM
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#1617
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Franchise Player
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Welcome to the Flames Bill!
Not going to put much stock into what is said. All coaches sound good when they are hired. Gulutzan was talking about the great d core too and how mobile it was when he was hired.
Actions will speak louder than words.
I'm curious to see if any Flames get added to the World Championship roster right now. You'd think Peters has a say and i'm sure he'd like to familiarize himself with some players.
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04-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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#1618
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by edn88
Ok, we have a new head coach, love him or hate him (would love a poll on that), but shouldn't we be asking the question - who are the AC's going to be?
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There really should be a thread about that.
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04-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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#1619
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Franchise Player
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I remain skeptical, but hopeful.
Bill said all the right things, and admittedly, that does inspire a little more confidence than the previous coach's comments.
But nothing matters until the rubber hits the road. I hope he runs a tight training camp and they hit the ground running in the season opener. Win or lose, I'd like to see them putting in an effort every game.
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04-23-2018, 12:01 PM
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#1620
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: North Vancouver
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Peters coming up on 960 in a few minutes.
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