2017/2018 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Vinny01]

I could see the Flames landing a RoR and Nylander package out of Buffalo. Jankowski and Brodie? Buffalo adds their 2nd or retains on RoR?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I could see the Flames landing a RoR and Nylander package out of Buffalo. Jankowski and Brodie? Buffalo adds their 2nd or retains on RoR?

You lost me as soon as you said Jankowski. I would part with Bennett first.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Perfect timing, Brodie for Nylander, get it done Tre!

Wtf? You know it's Alex Nylander, right?

He has been a huge disappointment.

Why are we trading a bonafide NHLer for somebody who might not even be an AHLer?

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Wtf? You know it's Alex Nylander, right?

He has been a huge disappointment.

Why are we trading a bonafide NHLer for somebody who might not even be an AHLer?

That same NHLer that was a big factor in us not making the playoffs? Brodie has nor worked here in 3 years and his value is probably not very high. Combine that with how bad he is probably going to get exposed even worse under Peters and the Flames would be crazy not to move him.

[Barca]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I could see the Flames landing a RoR and Nylander package out of Buffalo. Jankowski and Brodie? Buffalo adds their 2nd or retains on RoR?

For Elias Pettersson

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Barca

For Elias Pettersson

Say what now? How does Vancouver factor into this? Elias Petterson ain't goin nowhere.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

That same NHLer that was a big factor in us not making the playoffs? Brodie has nor worked here in 3 years and his value is probably not very high. Combine that with how bad he is probably going to get exposed even worse under Peters and the Flames would be crazy not to move him.

In three years? This is so disingenuous it's ridiculous.

When Giordano went down with injury in 2015, Brodie was the Flames' best player down the stretch and in the playoffs.

We aren't trading a player who has looked poor under one coach for pennies before we see what he looks like under a new one.

Like wtf is this terrible post? "he is probably going to get exposed even worse under Peters"???

What kind of panic BS nonsense is this? How did you come to this conclusion?

What an embarrassing post.

[Monahammer]

I'd be all for a janko+brodie for RoR+ Nylander swap.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

In three years? This is so disingenuous it's ridiculous.

When Giordano went down with injury in 2015, Brodie was the Flames' best player down the stretch and in the playoffs.

We aren't trading a player who has looked poor under one coach for pennies before we see what he looks like under a new one.

Like wtf is this terrible post? "he is probably going to get exposed even worse under Peters"???

What kind of panic BS nonsense is this? How did you come to this conclusion?

What an embarrassing post.

Guy, who are trying to fool on here?? We have all watched Brodie crap the bed over the past three seasons. If you had bothered to read you would know that Peters plays a system that makes the D have to make very quick decisions under pressure which T J Brodie sucks at. Don't try and say otherwise, you have a bunch of passionate fans on here that know better. This is not 2015 where Gio was covering up for his mistakes every night, the eye test and the numbers don't lie!

[codynw]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Guy, who are trying to fool on here?? We have all watched Brodie crap the bed over the past three seasons. If you had bothered to read you would know that Peters plays a system that makes the D have to make very quick decisions under pressure which T J Brodie sucks at. Don't try and say otherwise, you have a bunch of passionate fans on here that know better. This is not 2015 where Gio was covering up for his mistakes every night, the eye test and the numbers don't lie!

Brodie has only been "bad" for two seasons.

Coincidentally (or not), Gulutzan was coach for both of those seasons.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Guy, who are trying to fool on here?? We have all watched Brodie crap the bed over the past three seasons. If you had bothered to read you would know that Peters plays a system that makes the D have to make very quick decisions under pressure which T J Brodie sucks at. Don't try and say otherwise, you have a bunch of passionate fans on here that know better. This is not 2015 where Gio was covering up for his mistakes every night, the eye test and the numbers don't lie!

Brodie used to be great at making decisions under pressure. This is absolutely ridiculous.

You are making the determination that GG = possession coach = bad, therefore BP = even more of a possession coach = bad, therefore Brodie = will be even worse.

That's absolute nonsense. BP is not GG. They are not the same coach, they will not employ the exact same system.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I'd be all for a janko+brodie for RoR+ Nylander swap.

I don't think it gets it done, but I'd be down. I think you still need that Fox sweetener. ROR is not coming cheap if they put him on the market.

Brodie's value is what it is, and as much as we have high hopes for Jankowski, his value on the open market won't be what we seem to think it is as a fan base.

He was a long term project and just got his first (almost full year) in the NHL with some great signs along with some struggles. This would be the absolute worst time of his entire project development to trade him, as between the AHL and NHL this is probably the worst he'll ever look.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

In three years? This is so disingenuous it's ridiculous.

When Giordano went down with injury in 2015, Brodie was the Flames' best player down the stretch and in the playoffs.

We aren't trading a player who has looked poor under one coach for pennies before we see what he looks like under a new one.

Like wtf is this terrible post? "he is probably going to get exposed even worse under Peters"???

What kind of panic BS nonsense is this? How did you come to this conclusion?

What an embarrassing post.

Hardly as embarrassing as your borderline ad hominem attacks.
Posters have every right to be concerned about Brodie's play the last two seasons. He has been putrid.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Hardly as embarrassing as your borderline ad hominem attacks.
Posters have every right to be concerned about Brodie's play the last two seasons. He has been putrid.

Ad hominem attacks? I havent attacked anyone. I'm attacking bad posts.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Brodie used to be great at making decisions under pressure. This is absolutely ridiculous.

You are making the determination that GG = possession coach = bad, therefore BP = even more of a possession coach = bad, therefore Brodie = will be even worse.

That's absolute nonsense. BP is not GG. They are not the same coach, they will not employ the exact same system.

LOL, you still have not obviously read anything. Multiple Carolina fans have stated how Peters deploys the D, it has nothing to do with the same system. This is pointless as you are arguing Brodie makes good puck moving decisions, that is ridiculous.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by codynw

Brodie has only been "bad" for two seasons.

Coincidentally (or not), Gulutzan was coach for both of those seasons.

This is the same myth as Brodie prefers RD. He was also bad the last year of Hartley's tenure or should we conveniently forget that because it does not fit the narrative?

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Guy, who are trying to fool on here?? We have all watched Brodie crap the bed over the past three seasons. If you had bothered to read you would know that Peters plays a system that makes the D have to make very quick decisions under pressure which T J Brodie sucks at. Don't try and say otherwise, you have a bunch of passionate fans on here that know better. This is not 2015 where Gio was covering up for his mistakes every night, the eye test and the numbers don't lie!

You have a hate for Brodie, we get it. FFS, you post it ad nauseam.

But your hatred is your problem - don't pretend the rest of us feel the same way and think the same things. You have lost it on Brodie. And you're on your own on that one.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

You have a hate for Brodie, we get it. FFS, you post it ad nauseam.

But your hatred is your problem - don't pretend the rest of us feel the same way and think the same things. You have lost it on Brodie. And you're on your own on that one.

Sure, you can think what you like. If you are the opinion Brodie is great despite everything pointing to the fact he is not have at it. No skin off my back.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

LOL, you still have not obviously read anything. Multiple Carolina fans have stated how Peters deploys the D, it has nothing to do with the same system. This is pointless as you are arguing Brodie makes good puck moving decisions, that is ridiculous.

So to recap... you have read some posts from some Cane fans, drawn a conclusion from them on how Peters coaches, applied you ideas and assumptions to Brodie (who you have an irrational hate for), and come to the conclusion that Brodie will be worse under Peters.

And as if that isn't ridiculous enough, you lol at people that can't clearly see this obvious truth that you have uncovered.

lol

[codynw]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

This is the same myth as Brodie prefers RD. He was also bad the last year of Hartley's tenure or should we conveniently forget that because it does not fit the narrative?

Based on what? Brodie was fantastic in 15-16. Maybe not as good as he was in 14-15, but still unquestionably a top pairing defenceman.

Here are some write ups on him from that year so it's not just me who feels that he was still great in Hartley's last year.

https://www.matchsticksandgasoline.c...ard-t-j-brodie